I’m tired of supporting instances that support that trash. Are there any suggestions or even a good up-to-date list available?
I’m tired of supporting instances that support that trash. Are there any suggestions or even a good up-to-date list available?
With the silencing and default-block setup piefed.social has now, we get all the benefits of defederation without any of the costs.
There really hasn’t been the kind of crisis with them that would bring the issue to a head. When there are problems it’s not with the admins, it’s with individual accounts. So we just muddle on.
There are worse instances.
We can’t divide and fight our way to a fediverse that defeats reddit / meta. We need to build something together. Sometimes that will mean excluding destructive elements but most of our energy needs to go into making something awesome, a place people want to come to instead of big tech offerings.
The problem is, remaining federated with them is supporting them, hidden or not. Silencing them just cuts them off on one side. .ml trolls still see content created on the instance.
I see any instance not willing to completely cut ties with that shithole as supporting it. Even in the smallest way.
And frankly, I don’t understand why anyone would NOT disassociate with them. They have proven themselves to not want anything to do with fair discourse or allow facts into any discussion. This isn’t an opinion, this is very well documented. Not only is there an entire community dedicated to calling them out- but the modlogs are full of those asshole admins banning anyone they disagree with regardless if they violated any of the posted rules.
Who would want to be a part of this?
If you’re not defederated from it entirely; you support it.
“Noooo please don’t show me dissenting opinions in my echo chamber, I can’t handle it”!
Jeez, please grow up, your ontological evil detector is completely out of whack.
.ml is notorious for suppressing any dissenting opinion - both users and admins. You really have no grounds to be acting superior on this issue.
No, it just doesn’t accept wack opinions, which is totally fair. World consists of mostly wack opinions, while piefed is created with the purpose of only showing wack opinions.
So when this user doesn’t want “wack opinions” on an instance it’s bad and an echo chamber, but when .ml doesn’t allow “wack opinions” on their instance it’s… good and fair and not an echo chamber.
Hmm.
Yes, censorship is important for some topics, for example Zionists should not be able to spread their opinions. Neither should racists or sexists. Sure, you can disagree with that, but that’d be pretty wack.
I’m glad we can agree that .ml is pro-censorship!
That wasn’t the issue that was being discussed, but sure, I’m happy that my instance censors fascist scum. You seem to have an issue with that, which seems to be a common theme with liberals.
I don’t think federation implies endorsement or support. It’s more like “isn’t bad enough to cast out forever”.
PieFed has more of a spectrum of federation. There are trusted instances, normal instances, silenced instances and defederated instances. So it’s not a binary choice.
Yes that is a bummer. I have made a few attempts to limit federation based on what the poster has blocked but Lemmy is quite good at pulling in content that it previously didn’t receive, which works around it. More effort on this is needed.