I’m tired of supporting instances that support that trash. Are there any suggestions or even a good up-to-date list available?

  • Pratai@piefed.caOP
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    3 days ago

    The problem is, remaining federated with them is supporting them, hidden or not. Silencing them just cuts them off on one side. .ml trolls still see content created on the instance.

    I see any instance not willing to completely cut ties with that shithole as supporting it. Even in the smallest way.

    And frankly, I don’t understand why anyone would NOT disassociate with them. They have proven themselves to not want anything to do with fair discourse or allow facts into any discussion. This isn’t an opinion, this is very well documented. Not only is there an entire community dedicated to calling them out- but the modlogs are full of those asshole admins banning anyone they disagree with regardless if they violated any of the posted rules.

    Who would want to be a part of this?

    If you’re not defederated from it entirely; you support it.

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      3 days ago

      “Noooo please don’t show me dissenting opinions in my echo chamber, I can’t handle it”!

      Jeez, please grow up, your ontological evil detector is completely out of whack.

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        3 days ago

        .ml is notorious for suppressing any dissenting opinion - both users and admins. You really have no grounds to be acting superior on this issue.

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          2 days ago

          No, it just doesn’t accept wack opinions, which is totally fair. World consists of mostly wack opinions, while piefed is created with the purpose of only showing wack opinions.

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            2 days ago

            So when this user doesn’t want “wack opinions” on an instance it’s bad and an echo chamber, but when .ml doesn’t allow “wack opinions” on their instance it’s… good and fair and not an echo chamber.

            Hmm.

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              Yes, censorship is important for some topics, for example Zionists should not be able to spread their opinions. Neither should racists or sexists. Sure, you can disagree with that, but that’d be pretty wack.

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                  1 day ago

                  That wasn’t the issue that was being discussed, but sure, I’m happy that my instance censors fascist scum. You seem to have an issue with that, which seems to be a common theme with liberals.

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                    20 hours ago

                    Nah, that’s very much the issue that was being discussed - I was just dragging the discussion to absurdity in an attempt to highlight your behavior to you. Ah well. To be less subtle: You’re trying to spin this by asserting that it’s only fascists et. al that are censored, when that simply isn’t the case and has never been the claim I made. Your instance has a pattern of censoring damn near everything that disagrees - and slaps the label of zionism / fascism / liberalism on anything you dislike to justify the censorship (behavior you ape here).

                    It’s a game attempt to weasel your way out of having (at least tacitly) said .ml is an echo chamber, but nah, nobody is falling for it. You can baselessly dance around outright calling me a liberal all you want (lmao), but that only reinforces that the OP’s desire to find an instance that doesn’t allow your own instance’s “wack opinions” and bad faith interaction is behavior you can’t criticize without massive hypocrisy.

                    (edit: weird formatting issue, sorry!)

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      I don’t think federation implies endorsement or support. It’s more like “isn’t bad enough to cast out forever”.

      PieFed has more of a spectrum of federation. There are trusted instances, normal instances, silenced instances and defederated instances. So it’s not a binary choice.

      .ml trolls still see content created on the instance.

      Yes that is a bummer. I have made a few attempts to limit federation based on what the poster has blocked but Lemmy is quite good at pulling in content that it previously didn’t receive, which works around it. More effort on this is needed.