Feeding homeless people is also a form of praxis. Even if you aren’t arming for the revolution, you are still contributing to fighting against capitalism.

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    The difference is that capitalism is more than just an economic system, it is a form of class domination. Its a whole set of social relations that reinforce dominance. Voting with your dollars is not a viable strategy for opposing capitalism, there is no individual consumer decision that can make a dent.

    A good example is Boycott/Divest/Sanction. That’s like voting with your dollars right? And it is objectively an effective tactic against apartheid regimes, themselves driven by capitalist incentives, the same way that slavery was in the US. But BDS isnt an action taken by an individual, or rather, it isnt only that. It is a movement of people organizing with each other to take collective action to resist injustice. Capitalists and their political proxies fucking love Israel, who cares who is exploited or murdered in the name of economic development? Same in South Africa. And these campaigns infuriate the capitalist and political classes, they literally imprison people for showing support for Palestine. If it was one guy, or a few people scattered who decided they just weren’t gonna buy goods from Israeli companies, nobody would care. But they’re organized against the capitalists as a class, they educate people, convince them, and are effective.

    Capitalism organizes people too, it organizes us to sell our labor to someone who uses it to make themselves rich. When we organize on the basis of our own enrichment or self defense, against the interests of the wealthy, that’s where the cops show up and the president starts calling the most harmless and caring people “domestic terrorists.”

    When capitalism seems like just some economic system, then it doesn’t feel as repressive. We can go whole days without spending money. But capitalism is more than markets. Its practically impossible to avoid enriching capitalism as an individual. But spending a little money to organize and help people is resistance to the system as a social system rather than an economic one.

    Mutual aid can draw criticism on this basis too, like there are plenty of left criticisms of mutual aid. But by my reckoning, wherever people are helping each other rather than competing for a slightly higher wage, there is a pocket of anti capitalism. The capitalists have total control over the all production and markets. In order to free ourselves from it on a mass scale, we have to be principled and practical, and we have to do what it takes to get enough people to unite and take action. If that means giving someone money or doing mutual aid as a tactic, then that can be part of an anticapitalist strategy.

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      I appreciate this perspective, thank you for detailing your thoughts. I will have to do some thinking on this one.

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      Exactly capitalism is more than just an economic system its a scapegoat for every single problem in my life.

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        Good one!

        Here’s a list of the 10 richest people in 2019: Jeff Bezos ($131B), Bill Gates ($96.5B), Warren Buffett ($82.5B), Bernard Arnault ($76B), Carlos Slim Helú ($64B), Amancio Ortega ($62.7B), Larry Ellison ($62.5B), Mark Zuckerberg ($62.3B), Michael Bloomberg ($55.5B), Larry Page ($50.8B)

        Here’s a list of the 10 richest people today: Elon Musk ($480B), Larry Page ($270B), Jeff Bezos ($255B), Sergey Brin ($250B), Larry Ellison ($245B), Mark Zuckerberg ($230B), Bernard Arnault ($190B), Jensen Huang ($120B), Warren Buffett ($115B), Steve Ballmer ($110B)

        So, during covid the rich made so much fuckin money, and they made it so fast that they can’t go back. Line must go up, and at a greater rate of profit than before. Yet after covid, the fed raised interest rates to suppress wages. They said the cause was inflation, they always say that increased wages increase demand, which lowers supply, which causes prices to increase. But even in the midst of the war in Ukraine, which was used to explain away inflation, independent economists confirmed that at the time, around to 50% of price increases were arbitrary and not connected to higher costs. https://www.epi.org/blog/profits-and-price-inflation-are-indeed-linked/

        So if the government and the banks can then decide to raise interest rates in order to suppress our wages, as they did after covid, while the richest people have multiplied their own wealth astronomically, all during a period where the working class is under attack in order to increase the unemployed reserve surplus population, thereby suppressing wages, then how exactly, in your opinion or analysis is capitalism something other than a system that takes your wages and gives them to the wealthiest people on the planet?

        Recall a guy named Jeffrey Epstein who was close personal friends with the people above, and what they got up to. That is who you are defending, pedophiles, rapists, and psychopaths. Do you think it will help you quadruple your income in the next 5 years? If so, I would love to talk to you about some beachfront property I think you’ll be interested in.

        I’m not calling you a pedo defender, just making a point that capitalism is a system that fucks us and rewards them for fucking us. So which side are you on?

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          I’m not calling you a pedo defender

          Ok, I dont know why you would i probably hate him more than you.

          The world isnt America and capitalism isnt only rich people. Those billionaires fuck us and run wild because of weak governance. Under another economic system with equally weak governance we’d likely see equal amounts of oppression from those with power.

          Capitalism needs to be regulated and in most countries it is. We’ve had like 50 years of completely unregulated business from the US. They need to put the beatdown on their businesses to bring them inline and establish fair practice and prosecute those who are criminal.

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            Oh I see so youre a based supporter of the People’s Republic of China, the model for strong government control over capitalism.

            There is such a thing as class. There are ruling classes and servile classes, and have been for thousands of years. We live in a class society, capitalism is the system that creates class antagonisms, government is a way to manage them. But as long as there are capitalists, and they own everything, then the government will belong to them. I would rather the government belongs to us.

            No governor can save us. The amount of organization and political will that it would take to turn a psycho oppressive society like ours into a rational social democracy with nice capitalist rulers (like the Europeans have with DAVOS, lol) would be enough to run society for our selves, and get rid of the profit motive. Capitalism, as class society, can not be rational, because it is not rational for some people to rule others.

            Your proposed ideal governance is just Karen-ism, like the best we can hope for is being able to speak to a manager to solve our problems. If they won’t do anything, then we just need better managers.

            No. We dont need managers, the managers are a sign of the actual problem: bosses whose incentives are completely different than the rest of us. We need to take power rather than give it away. A better world is possible, not by giving away power but by seizing it and organizing for the benefit of all, rather than a special few.