Call me old, but people should learn to discover music in different ways (friends, press, concerts, etc.) and not wait to be fed by corporations… just a thought.
It is a lot more fun to discover artists yourself. Browsing a list of album covers and enjoy them, read short description of the album and artist then listen to the music. You also feel the send of fulfillement becausw the process becomes a personal adventure rather than a passive experience
As I said in my other reply, different people like different things. I don’t want an adventure. I want the passive experience. I do other things while listening to music (work, read, tinker, …). I almost always have some music playing, but rarely do I just listen to music (it does happen though). I’ll pick styles depending on mood or task, it’s like the rails that keep me on track while working (as an example). If I’m not listening to music, I lose focus.
I simply can’t do that with an article or other medium that requires my primary attention. I don’t feel a sense of fulfillment either, but increasingly annoyed that reading this thing about music is taking more and more time. Believe me when I tell you, it’s not for me.
I also get that, that’s why I up-voted every reply from you. I actually love seeing such completely different perceptions of the same situation. And I also just want to explain my reasoning and how I got there. Which is why my replies tend to be so long.
I like 1990’s Japanese ska punk and I had hit a wall finding new bands since there isn’t a huge English language community for that stuff. With spotify I found ten new bands the first day. I do try to find a way to own the music I like through Bandcamp or through the Amazon MP3 store but I don’t know of another way to discover new music as efficiently.
See my other reply to tofu. Not the same thing. You just couldn’t do what these services do even 2 decades ago. You could discover things, but at a very different pace and very different reach. You’re limited to discover what friends know from them. Discovering things via “press” isn’t free either, it takes time to read the articles, buy the magazines (do they still exists?) and you’re likely to only hear about popular things. You also need to find publications that suit your own taste, or learn which authors are compatible with it.
As for concerts you can only go to those that are near you, which is either local artists or those big enough to tour away from their home base. There are artists that don’t tour at all (probably a third of my catalog falls into this category).
It’s the opposite for me. I don’t want to read about music. I just want to listen to music that I don’t know yet but am likely to like. I don’t want to dig around for it. The algorithms you dislike do something that no article or podcast can: give me personally tailored recommendations. She not in an abstract way but just as a playlist.
I’m aware it has no concept of artistic quality. But I also don’t care about the quality of music, especially if perceived by some journalist. I only care if I like music. Some of it is intricately composed, masterfully performed. Some is pop, or generic/simple house.
I have discovered entire genres with the algorithms you seem to think only give narrowing recommendations. Some people probably listened to those and something I liked.
Let me repeat again: I have discovered many, many artists for me that I literally would have no realistic chance of every hearing about in any other way. Ever!
I’m aware it has no concept of artistic quality. But I also don’t care about the quality of music, especially if perceived by some journalist. I only care if I like music. Some of it is intricately composed, masterfully performed. Some is pop, or generic/simple house.
The concept of artistic quality is simply subjective. I don’t think intricately composed music or complex music make a song artistically better. To me a quality song artistically song is simply and enjoyable and impactful song. My definition of impactful is wide too it make me a song with really serious subject matter or simply a funny simple song that could me feel better mentally .
While i enjoy an journalist talking about a song and album it doesn’t mean i will trust his opinion but i prefer that than an non human telling me what it think is music i would enjoy. Someone may talk negatively about a music and explain why he hate it and i may find the think he hated is what will make me enjoy the song he dislike
I have discovered entire genres with the algorithms you seem to think only give narrowing recommendations. Some people probably listened to those and something I liked.
I read Bandcamp daily to know about some obscure genre . It is again just my preference, i will always prefer human recommendation
Let me repeat again: I have discovered many, many artists for me that I literally would have no realistic chance of every hearing about in any other way. Ever!
Streaming isn’t exclusive to the methods you mentioned. I have plenty of friends make recommendations. And I found out about one of my now-favorite bands through Rolling Stone.
The ways you mention are basically just corporations with extra steps.
Edit: I’m just saying – our music is practically all funneled from a corporation at several steps in the process of it getting to us, even if the final step is a friend telling you about it. And yes I know there are plenty of obscure/indie/non-commerical bands but those don’t account for very much of the totality of music that gets listened to.
Call me old, but people should learn to discover music in different ways (friends, press, concerts, etc.) and not wait to be fed by corporations… just a thought.
Hey what’s wrong with silently listening to new releases at the record shop.
Best memories growing up we’re going to a&b sound and playing Dreamcast while my parents listened to the CDs setup around the store for demos.
I remember places having rows of stations so a bunch of people could listen to new releases at the same time.
Digital music is great but something to be said about having to actually curate your own experience
It is a lot more fun to discover artists yourself. Browsing a list of album covers and enjoy them, read short description of the album and artist then listen to the music. You also feel the send of fulfillement becausw the process becomes a personal adventure rather than a passive experience
As I said in my other reply, different people like different things. I don’t want an adventure. I want the passive experience. I do other things while listening to music (work, read, tinker, …). I almost always have some music playing, but rarely do I just listen to music (it does happen though). I’ll pick styles depending on mood or task, it’s like the rails that keep me on track while working (as an example). If I’m not listening to music, I lose focus.
I simply can’t do that with an article or other medium that requires my primary attention. I don’t feel a sense of fulfillment either, but increasingly annoyed that reading this thing about music is taking more and more time. Believe me when I tell you, it’s not for me.
I am just expressing the other perspective. Not telling you to have the same
I also get that, that’s why I up-voted every reply from you. I actually love seeing such completely different perceptions of the same situation. And I also just want to explain my reasoning and how I got there. Which is why my replies tend to be so long.
I like 1990’s Japanese ska punk and I had hit a wall finding new bands since there isn’t a huge English language community for that stuff. With spotify I found ten new bands the first day. I do try to find a way to own the music I like through Bandcamp or through the Amazon MP3 store but I don’t know of another way to discover new music as efficiently.
See my other reply to tofu. Not the same thing. You just couldn’t do what these services do even 2 decades ago. You could discover things, but at a very different pace and very different reach. You’re limited to discover what friends know from them. Discovering things via “press” isn’t free either, it takes time to read the articles, buy the magazines (do they still exists?) and you’re likely to only hear about popular things. You also need to find publications that suit your own taste, or learn which authors are compatible with it.
As for concerts you can only go to those that are near you, which is either local artists or those big enough to tour away from their home base. There are artists that don’t tour at all (probably a third of my catalog falls into this category).
I don’t know about you but this is so fun for me it bring me joy and fulfillment as opposed to being fed by algorithm
It’s the opposite for me. I don’t want to read about music. I just want to listen to music that I don’t know yet but am likely to like. I don’t want to dig around for it. The algorithms you dislike do something that no article or podcast can: give me personally tailored recommendations. She not in an abstract way but just as a playlist.
An algorithm has zero concept of artistic quality . I also want to always extends my taste and not the opposite
I’m aware it has no concept of artistic quality. But I also don’t care about the quality of music, especially if perceived by some journalist. I only care if I like music. Some of it is intricately composed, masterfully performed. Some is pop, or generic/simple house.
I have discovered entire genres with the algorithms you seem to think only give narrowing recommendations. Some people probably listened to those and something I liked.
Let me repeat again: I have discovered many, many artists for me that I literally would have no realistic chance of every hearing about in any other way. Ever!
The concept of artistic quality is simply subjective. I don’t think intricately composed music or complex music make a song artistically better. To me a quality song artistically song is simply and enjoyable and impactful song. My definition of impactful is wide too it make me a song with really serious subject matter or simply a funny simple song that could me feel better mentally .
While i enjoy an journalist talking about a song and album it doesn’t mean i will trust his opinion but i prefer that than an non human telling me what it think is music i would enjoy. Someone may talk negatively about a music and explain why he hate it and i may find the think he hated is what will make me enjoy the song he dislike
I read Bandcamp daily to know about some obscure genre . It is again just my preference, i will always prefer human recommendation
Same but without relying on an algorithm
Streaming isn’t exclusive to the methods you mentioned. I have plenty of friends make recommendations. And I found out about one of my now-favorite bands through Rolling Stone.
The ways you mention are basically just corporations with extra steps.
Edit: I’m just saying – our music is practically all funneled from a corporation at several steps in the process of it getting to us, even if the final step is a friend telling you about it. And yes I know there are plenty of obscure/indie/non-commerical bands but those don’t account for very much of the totality of music that gets listened to.