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    I am one of the people that never uses them, and I think I finally realized why: ADHD.

    I usually turn them off, and if there’s a part of the GUI dedicated to them, I disable that too. I thought it was to save screen space, but honestly I think it’s more so that I won’t lose windows to virtual desktops I forgot existed.

    I think the tendency to forget things and to occasionally space out and forget what I’m doing has led me to value persistent visual artifacts of whatever I’m doing. That means a visible taskbar with the clock, system tray icons, and application icons, plus terminal windows even if they are idle. Somehow, scanning back and forth across 4 monitors – even if virtual desktop people reading this can do it much faster their way – just works better for me.

    This touches on something that’s actually much deeper that I have been doing for myself:

    Sometimes if you do things in a way that plays nicely with your personal neurospice cocktail rather than the more efficient way you “know” that you “should” be doing them, it just makes your life better and that is the whole damn point for why we are working on the computer in the first place.

    I can absolutely see myself buzzing around virtual desktops with keyboard commands. I have experimented with desktop setups in the past. I remember for a while in college I was running some kind of 3D desktop program where I had a virtual space where I could move windows and icons around. You could hang images floating in the air like paintings. And this is on 25 year old hardware! I think my GPU was a Geforce 2 GTS. Giga-texel shader baby!

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    I have 3 screens:

    1. Main screen for whatever i’m doing incl Browser
    2. Gaming screen wiith Steam and Heroic Launcher
    3. Comms - Signal, emaiil, discord, everything KDE Connect
    4. random shit not fitting anywere
    5. Piracy town: qbittorent, jdownloader, Browser with MANY sources

    The second one has many many status widgets, Dolphin, fSearch and a Firefox window that’s my media player, always in the background without any title bars or borders running the deezer webpage as WPA

    The third one is connected with a 10m HDMI cable and is not running often, is just used to watch movies :-)

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    This post made me look into virtual desktops on my laptop and I can easily double the current amount of desktops from 2-4 under settings.

    Biggest problem with that is that I almost never use more than my first virtual desktop unless I’m working on multiple things and need to switch to not get caught working on one of them over the other.

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      because at least on windows, they just don’t work well

      shit always opens on the wrong desktop, they’re slow and glitchy. it’s just a pain

      I just have four monitors

      very infrequently I use virtual desktops for particular things, but too often I need to see the secondary shit while doing the primary and also have a meeting or tertiary info up while accessing chat

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        Similarly on mac, there’s an animation that it has to finish before releasing controls back to the user. Ubuntu has snappy ones

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      They’re great for work from home, especially when sharing screens. My background and task panel changes when I change desktops, and a script controls which Firefox profile is the default.

      So one VD is work, another is play.

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        Yep, really only use them at home

        -Native desktop is for random shit

        -“Fun” is for games, and… Fun stuff

        -“Work Shit” is work shit

        -“Bidness” is for home stuff that’s not necessarily mindless entertainment. Banking, home projects, etc

        “Schoo” is for college

        Bidness desktop is the only one that’s a giant beast. So many windows and tabs, each FF instance is relating to a home project with a ton of tabs, can be car shit, electronics, networking, whatever. So much shit. It’s like having too many tabs open but exponentially bad.

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      I tried using them but in the end it becomes too much of a hassle. I tried doing a work-out work kind of setup with my laptop but it’s more cumbersome to maintain than just closing it all

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      Can’t tell from the screenshot (need moar pixels), but that reminds me of the old software that would give Windows XP, 6 workspaces… It was so amazing but would utterly kill my old PIII with 192MB of RAM.

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    Desktop 1: The things I need to do (applying for jobs) Desktop 2: The other things I should do (building relevant career skills) Desktop 3: The things I actually do (random hobbies & volunteer work) Desktop 4: I have no fucking clue, maybe reddit?

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    Does anyone else never use them ever?

    Multi-monitor setups make more sense to me, but I don’t even use that anymore after switching to a 65" 4K gaming OLED as my primary monitor. Its like having four 32" 1080p monitors arranged in a grid, except without any bezels. Plenty of screen real estate for anything I need to do.

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      For more than a decade I developed a 3x3 grid with intuitive shortcuts with one monitor, a very visual space distribution, and I do not change it for anything (even when docking my laptop I use only the main monitor, I find it much more mentally efficient, since desktop swaping is faster than moving my head)

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      I took long train rides for a few years, where I’d work with a laptop, so my entire workflow is now single-monitor. I frequently sit down at workplaces at $DAYJOB where I would have two monitors and then I disable one of them, because it’s just genuinely not useful to me.

      And if that didn’t terrify you, I also prefer touchpads now. 🙃

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          Basically, I do lots of things with keyboard shortcuts, so my hand is hovering over the keyboard by default. Which means, it’s just much quicker for me to reach for the touchpad below the spacebar, and particularly also to later move back to the keyboard without having to find my position anew.

          I do still find touchpads less precise, but I often accomplish the clicking of buttons via keyboard shortcuts, and mostly need the mouse pointer for dragging or hovering things, which don’t require a ton of precision.

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            I think touchpads can be better for anything except video games. But a lot of trackpads are shit, some are too small, others lag, others are made of some material that feels weird to drag your finger onto. Although im not a fan of macbooks for many reasons, they do have great trackpads.

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              Ah yeah, I don’t do a ton of gaming and mostly keyboard-only. I mean, I do possess a mouse and a game controller, but an advantage of the laptop-only life is that you can throw yourself onto the couch, which I do enjoy.

              And I do tend to buy higher-end laptops anyways, so luckily haven’t had to think too much about touchpad quality…

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      Never used them in my life and I’ve been machine computing over 25 years. Always one monitor, one desktop. I close shit I dont need regularly, I click on icons on the tab bar to get to the app I need. The tab bar is wide enough to hold like 30+ of them. Why do I need more than one desktop? Windows go over another, the tab bar shows everything I have open. Why switch? I never got it.

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        Tiling WMs are just faster. So much faster. They remove so much annoyance it’s really hard to put it to words. Binding programs to workspaces is what finally sealed the deal for me.

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        Alt+tab (and alt+shift+tab) is all you need imo.

        Ctrl+tab for paging through browser tabs is helpful too.

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          I see it like this: alt+tab only toggles among the two latest things, on a 3x3 grid win+arrows, on a tidy usage of some fixed desktops (one for browser, one for mail, one for current subject…), you have inmediate swaps to multiple relevant programs, not just the latest which also mutates… also it adds some visual mental distribution which I find extremely efficient… never went back and I struggle/frustrate with looking for stuff in a fixed bar… (I had to use quite often both types, so I feel the difference)

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            If you keep holdind alt while pressing tab multiple times it will cycle over every open window, not only the latest two. You just have no not release alt before you reach the window you want, otherwise it restarts the cycling with the new order of most recently used windows.

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            alt+tab only toggles among the two latest things

            This is simply untrue in KDE. Can’t speak for Windows or other DEs.

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              Well, they mean with one keypress or at least fairly quickly. Like, I don’t know, maybe you keep in your working memory which windows you had used and then can just hit Alt+Tab+Tab+Tab without looking.

              But yeah, as soon as you have to look at the individual windows while switching, it’s gonna take longer and particularly also kind of take you out of your current task.

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                I just use an alt+tab, uh… skin(?) that is a list of all of my open windows in the middle of the screen. Alt+tab scrolls through them, and as each one is highlighted, it’s brought to the front of the screen.

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        If I have more apps open on at same desktop I can switch to other apps without disturbing the setup. So for example I have a terminal with build output, my app in a browser and inspector open at the same time. I can switch to all the other apps without moving any of it. I just jump back to this workspace and everything is still in the same place. With single desktop if I switch to Firefox I have to bright all 3 windows to the top separately.

        With two monitors I can have documentation open in a browser right next to my IDE, both fullscreen. Or have the IDE and my app open. Or a website and it’s logs. Or IDE and Postman. I have multiple firefox windows and terminals open at the same time. This doesn’t work well with single monitor/single desktop because it’s hard to keep track which window is which. If you only use one app at a time (like you only switch between firefox, steam and spotify) one desktop is perfectly fine. When you do bunch of stuff at the same time it gets messy real quick.

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      Never once used them. My spouse has them on her mac book, which I know because she’ll randomly just lose whatever she’s doing and have some video playing that she can’t find again for another few minutes. So other than a minute of entertainment once every few months, not sure why they even exist.

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      TIL þere exist people who don’t use virtual desktops.

      How do you even?

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      I’m thinking of trying them, but hard for me to find a usecase. I have two monitors and it’s often useful for me to have different combos of apps open at the sane time, so not sure how to properly use it.

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      I have a 34" 1440p monitor, which I almost always have tiled in half, and a 1080p monitor next to that. Some more involved workflows will have me branching out to other desktops but I can get a lot done with two monitors. A third would be nice but I’ll need a new desk for that.

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    I don’t “get” virtual desktops. I mean I’ve tried them out and don’t care for them. I’m curious if those who do are using single monitors or low resolution?

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      I’ve got triple monitors and 8-10 virtual desktops full at any given moment. Lots of multitasking. Lots of context switching where I don’t necessarily want to close out any windows. Tilling WM.

      Kind of thinking about adding more virtual desktops…

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      Even with multiple monitors, they are still useful. I use them to separate different tasks so I can switch back and forth with a keyboard shortcut.

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      yeah I’ve got two laptops for 80% of my computer usage and one has 10" 1920x1080, other has 13" 1366x768. It’s impossible to read text or do any serious work when having more than two windows visible at the same time, and virtual desktop with hotkeys make it much more tolerable.

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      I can’t stand virtual desktops. I have 4 monitors specifically so I can have as many things visible at once at possible without switching. I work from home so this is my machine I use for everything. 1 monitor for main task or games, 1 for side tasks, 1 for media or even more side tasks, and 1 exclusively for work and personal chat. My top monitor is very large so I often have 2 or 4 different things going on at once side by side on that one. I disable virtual desktops and tiling windows on every operating system I’ve used.

      If my GPU had more outputs, I would have more monitors. I also have a 2nd computer with a single 1080p monitor to the right (I have an L desk) for home network stuff, usually keep my security camera feed on that one.

      I respect anyone who does use virtual desktops because I acknowledge that if you master the workflow, it can be more efficient if you have more than like 5 or 6 tasks going at once (vs 4 monitors), however I will die on the hill of never ever using them.

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        Just buy one giant high resolution TV. Same amount of pixels, similar DPI, but no bezels.

        I’m using a 4k 48" OLED, with no scaling. So windows and text are “normal” sized but I have a huge amount of space for multiple windows.

        Then you can configure zones, using them like virtual monitors, and just shift + drag windows around and they snap into the zone. Different layouts act like different monitor configurations.

        It takes some getting used to but I can’t go back to multiple monitors now.

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        There’s a certain divide I’ll have where, I might want my CAD software, reference material etc. all open, and that can easily spread my two monitors, and then if I’ve got communication stuff like email, slack etc. open it’s easier for me to mentally switch to a different place to do that. Much more than my big center monitor and two others and that’s more than my visual field and I don’t really want to use my computer looking all around the room with me, trying to find the damn mouse cursor.

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      I use them to both maximize desktop space for multitasking (my monitor splits evenly into two 4:3 windows side by side) and keep my tasks organized, as I tend to let my brain wander of distracted. Been using i3 for like a decade now.

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      I use a lot of virtual desktops and yeah, I genuinely disable other monitors, if I sit at a workplace where I’d have two.

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      Benefits:

      • Fast context switch (browsing, editing, documentation, etc).
      • Fast grouping(again browsing and all).
      • Automatic grouping (one can set rules were opens were)
      • It is even more useful on single monitors, the little space one has means that usually on can split the screen no more than 2 times, this means that swtiching quickly between groups of windows save you a load of time.
      • On the long run one gets used to the workflow and the cognitive effort of moving around windows becomes super low.

      Cons:

      • Might take some cognitive effort getting used to the workflow/keybinds. (usually worth it in the long run)
      • Moving around windows or workspaces can be difficult if not setup up correctly.

      One step further

      Tags (as opposed of workspaces/virtual-desktops) are a system used by the likes of dwm, dwl, river, mangowc to choose what windows get displayed on the screen. This would allow you to toggle and view different groups of windows on the same screen(like viewing multiple virtual-desktops at the same time). This would allow one to do that super fast context switching at a more complex level if needed. For instance you could toggle the “tag 2” while viewing “tag 1” effectively merging the two tags into the same screen instead of switching back and forth with workspaces. This method requires a little of more focus and remembering the state of the windows/tags.


      Quick mention of my Window Managers if anyone is interested in the topic.

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      I don’t like stacked windows.

      Stuff that needs to run in the background moves to another desktop, like a console window logging output.

      When layouting with ECAD I also like to have schematic and layout maximised. So wiki tickets and datasheets need to go somewhere.

      It’s easier to handle with a tiling window manager. Sadly at work I’m stuck with windows.

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        It’s easier to handle with a tiling window manager. Sadly at work I’m stuck with windows.

        I’m pretty sure that there are tiling windowing environments for Windows, though it’s gonna be kinda less of a first-class citizen than on Linux.

        kagis

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiling_window_manager

        • AquaSnap - made by Nurgo Software. Freeware, with an optional “Professional” license.

        • Amethyst for windows - dynamic tiling window manager along the lines of amethyst for MacOS.

        • bug.n – open source, configurable tiling window manager built as an AutoHotKey script and licensed under the GNU GPL.[9]

        • MaxTo — customizable grid, global hotkeys. Works with elevated applications, 32-bit and 64-bit applications, and multiple monitors.[10]

        • WS Grid+ – move and/or resize window’s using a grid selection system combining benefits of floating, stacking, and tiling. It provides keyboard/mouse shortcuts to instantly move and resize a window.

        • Stack – customizable grid (XAML), global hotkeys and/or middle mouse button. Supports HiDPI and multiple monitors.[11][12]

        • Plumb — lightweight tiling manager with support for multiple versions of Windows. Supports HiDPI monitors, keyboard hotkeys, and customization of hotkeys (XAML).[13]

        • workspacer — an MIT-licensed tiling window manager for Windows 10 that aims to be fast and compatible. Written and configurable using C#.[14]

        • dwm-win32 — port of dwm’s general functionality to win32. Is MIT-licensed and is configured by editing a config header in the same style as dwm.[15]

        • GlazeWM — a tiling window manager for Windows inspired by i3 and Polybar.

        • Komorebi — a window manager for Microsoft Windows SO written in Rust. Like bspwm it does not handle key-binding on its own, so users have to use AHK or WHKD to manage the shortcuts. Komorebi also has a GUI User Friendly version called Komorebi UI.

        • Whim – dynamic window manager that is built using WinUI 3 and the .NET framework.

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      I’ve tried them, but my workflow makes them less useful. I prefer maximized windows, so each program behaves like their own virtual desktop.

      I rather much prefer dual monitors with rules so each program always starts maximized on a specific monitor.

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        Sounds like you’d love a tiling window manager (if you aren’t already using one). What you describe is a big part of the philosophy of tiling WMs. I like Sway, might be worth checking out, though I wouldn’t be surprised if you’ve already tried tiling WMs. I only suggest it, as I’m convinced all tiling WM users compulsively mention it…

        I use hyprland btw.

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      I never used them when i was still using a DE, but now as a tiling window manager user i use them all the time, since the point of those is that windows are placed in a layout and don’t overlap, so after opening like 3 windows max, it gets too cramped for my taste and i move to a different workspace.

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      What OS are you on? Virtual desktops on Mac and windows are just terrible. On Linux I’ve been using virtual desktops on Linux since the 90s and when I see my colleagues on Mac using a single desktop with 20 windows trying desperately to switch between windows I just shake my head.

      I use dynamic virtual desktops and have a separate desktop for every task. That keeps me focused on that task, but also lets me easily jump to something different. I couldn’t imagine trying to be productive any other way.

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      I’m curious if those who do are using single monitors or low resolution?

      I use a single monitor.

      Why use virtual desktops versus a single desktop? Because I generally want to have a fullscreen window making use of all of the pixels on my monitor. I don’t have a visible taskbar unless I have the Super key down. I don’t have anything onscreen other than the application that I’m using.

      Why use virtual desktops versus some sort of huge monitor? You have a relatively-small portion of your visual arc that you can actually read — even on a small monitor. A laptop at a reasonable distance already covers that. I did, at one point, use a netbook as a bit of a challenge. I stuck that on a stand near my face, used an external keyboard. It took up more of my visual arc than did a typical very large monitor.

      Why use virtual desktops versus multiple physical monitors?

      • If your workflow needs a multiple physical monitors, you’re limited when you can’t lug those around (or at least, you’re required to lug around a lot more physical hardware). I can pop open a laptop wherever and work as readily as if I’m at my desktop. Same sort of issue applies with a very large monitor.

        For the same reason, I do everything possible to keep my workflow in the terminal. Using graphical systems remotely over anything but the fastest, lowest-latency networks is disappointing. But because my workflow is heavily terminal-based, I can use a system remotely about as comfortably as if I’m sitting in front of it.

      • I think that a lot of problem that people using multiple physical monitors are trying to work around is software using screen space inefficiently, putting stuff like toolbars, panes and tabs onscreen where people aren’t actually using the information, because their software isn’t using that screen space efficiently or don’t have functionality to efficiently switch. Like, let’s say that you have Visual Studio open. grabs a random screenshot off GitHub

        Ignore the red outlines. Like, you’re looking at the actual core stuff there through a little tiny portal there. Most of the stuff onscreen there is material that isn’t being used, just tying up pixels.

        I don’t have “tabs” in emacs. I can have a hundred buffers open, and it doesn’t use up more screen space. Every “tab” is eating up pixels without providing much utility. Yeah, I have software packages in emacs to rapidly switch to other files in a project — but they don’t consume screen space other than when I’m actually actively using them. I don’t have a toolbar showing a bunch of buttons that I’m not clicking on. I don’t have a list of open (and maybe closed) files always onscreen. I don’t even have a menubar.

      • I can switch virtual desktops more-quickly than I can move my eyes and recenter on a different desktop, though that’s really a secondary issue.

      • I suppose that it’s cheaper and more power-efficient, but that’s not really my main concern.

      EDIT: Note that I’m not specifically trying to beat up on Visual Studio. It may be that in 2025, there’s some way to strip down what screen space it uses — I haven’t used it for many moons, so I’m long out of date on it. Just using it as an example of a software package that I often see screenshots of with a lot of “mostly-dead space” consumed onscreen.

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      Depends on your workflow. I’m usually using a i3wm or sway environment so I can put windows side by side, but on my ultrawide monitor it usually is best to limit that to two windows (usually a couple of browser windows or a browser and a terminal). I also often have a text editor open as well, so it helps if I can open that on another desktop, and quickly switch to it as needed. My main goal isn’t to really minimize anything, just switch desktops because I find it easier to just switch around. In windows I generally don’t use desktops as I find their goal is more to have you minimize stuff which I find kinda annoying because I have to resize the window or something when reopening them.

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      i used them a lot when i had 1 monitor and did more than one thing at a given time, then never needed more than 1 again after getting a second monitor

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      I mostly only use them on macOS because each display has its own set of virtual desktops and I can just leave everything open and move between desktops instead of dealing with minimizing and reopening windows on individual displays instead of all displays switching desktops at once

      (as far as I know, there aren’t any Linux DEs that have virtual desktops that work like that but I would love to be wrong about this because I love how this works on macOS)

      I rarely use them on Linux (KDE in my case) though, it feels clunky and I usually just forget I had things open on another desktop lol

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      i tried them for awhile years ago, but determined fairly quickly that one is enough for me.

      one of my first configurations on a new installs (ones with a DE) is setting number-of-desktops to ‘1’ and hiding the default switcher on the panel. even with a ui designed around multiple desktops (like the gnome implementation on my endless desktop at home) i just use one.

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        I’m on one 99% of the time. I very much appreciate being able to use them that 1% of the time I need more.

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    I got a 3x3 grid and now I swim accross them so naturally, visually and intuitively that I cannot stand anything else, 1 for spotify/system properties, 2 for firefox, 3 for thunderbird, the rest thematic for ocassional folder and dedicated programs, any one (two for diagonals) shortcut away from any other (win_key+arrows, with ctrl and shift combinations for window movement/fitting)… I will never comply back to anything else

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    Desktop 1: The things I’m supposed to be doing

    Desktop 2: The things I’m supposed to be doing but I forgot I’m not on desktop 1

    Desktop 3: The secondary things I’m supposed to be doing but I forgot these windows were already open on desktop 1

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      Desktop 1: with random shit I’m not supposed to be doing but it’s more interesting to my ADHD brain than the other shit right now.

      Desktop 2: Some random GitHub link and another instance of VScode so I can keyboard shortcut to that if someone comes to talk to me.