- cross-posted to:
- fediverse@lemmy.ml
- cross-posted to:
- fediverse@lemmy.ml
The Funkwhale music platform is alive and in active development, and they’re working on a feature to filter far-right artists off the network. Some Fediverse self-hosters are divided on letting a third party decide what should be allowed in their library.
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Horrible idea. Let people share what they want and give the means for individuals to hide content they don’t want to see.
We shouldn’t be deciding for other people what they are allowed to see.
The next generation of internet users should really look into the Streisand Effect. You’re only going to drive more people away from your cause when you try to control what they get to say and what they’re allowed to see.
I’m already abandoning the left as quickly as possible because I’m sick of yall’s censorship and propaganda tactics; this is just another one of them.
For me it’s independent or bust. You can thank all the brow-beaters, tantrum-throwers, useful idiots, and mod-abusers for why I’m no longer loyal to their side. These kids need to grow up if they want more adults to take them seriously.
The intent sounds fine, but as @deadsuperhero@lemmy.world points out, it offloads the actual responsibility of filtering on MusicBrainz and WikiData.
It’s not hard to imagine MusicBrainz being flooded by users trying to circumvent bans by editing tags. Or incorrectly tagging bands they don’t like or agree with to get them banned.
Funkwhale probably isn’t big enough in itself to make a huge splash, but this proposed ban does add another target to the extreme right’s hit list. It seems a little iffy to me to make an open project like MusicBrainz that target?
This seems like well intentioned but ultimately pointless. Nothing is stopping a nazi group from just forking off an older version like how gab did with mastodon, and no currently active funkwhale pods allow right wing content already.
Sounds like a fantastic plan.
The handwringing about if we’re being nice enough to the alt right is directly contributing to why we have so much mess we’re now having to deal with. The approach seems sane to find music that’s very specifically nazi rock, so they’re being extremely limited in response, imo.
Screw em, kick them out of anywhere you find them, and then nail the door they used to get in shut.
Hard disagree. Just like when people in the fediverse tried to block using certain words across the entire medium, this is going to cause more harm than good to appease people who can’t think for themselves.
I swear, the brow-beating crowd really has had free reign these past few years. It’s time to rein them back in and watch them kick and scream like the tantrum-throwing children they really are.
Somewhat off topic but I was totally convinced that Funkwhale had died so I ditched my pod and moved to Navidrome, I wasn’t using federation so I wasn’t really the intended audience. I’m glad they are still going though. But personally I’ve had a better experience with Navidrome with Feishin as a player.
While that is funny and certainly deserved. Normally I would say that its not their place to decide that but fuck right wingers they deserve to be purged out of every single space they have.
I’m a bit torn on the idea, myself. On one hand, fuck fascists, don’t let ‘em have an inch. But on the other hand, this does kinda take away a users’ freedoms with the software.
Honestly, I think it’s fine if it’s a plugin or something that you can install at your own discretion or something. Or if it’s baked-in, it should be an opt-in setting. I’m of the opinion that the actual software, itself, should be apolitical. It’s something I can respect the Lemmy devs for, after all; even though I disagree with their politics, the actual Lemmy code is politically agnostic, and I think that’s for the best.
I’m sure people are still free to take the code and make the necessary adjustments if they really need to host a Nazi-friendly instance.
Which is an outcome I actually worry about, if they implemented this feature in Funkwhale. A fascist fork of the app existing and having a userbase gives it legitimacy. It immediately sells itself to those people: “Come to our free speech music platform” will bring in a lot of new users, very easily.
You can decide what music you listen to. Anyway a band being too politcal won’t make bad music, you don’t have to agree to their ideas to appreciate the music
Isn’t that the age old “Is Burzum NSBM” discussion. Vikernes is definitely a Nazi, but his music, as in texts etc, isn’t infested with Nazi ideology much unlike much more clear-cut NSBM: It’s not National-Socialist Black Metal, but Black Metal than happens to be created by a National Socialist.
IMO in the end I don’t mind you listening to, or even liking, Burzum, but please have the moral wherewithal to pirate. If that means you can’t have them on the platform because you’d be exposed to lawsuits, then so be it. Fuck Vikernes, he made his own bed.
This is how you get republicans wanting to use RATM on the campaign trail
I fail to see how it’s even possible for an open source project to dictate what content is acceptable. Also, the entire idea is contrary to rms’ FOSS goals (for any purpose), other than being completely ineffective. I can understand the need for agency and contribution to whatever resistance can be mustered, but this is larping.
Also, the entire idea is contrary to rms’ FOSS goals
Perhaps, and I don’t see how that’s a problem. Saint IGNUcius isn’t the divine dictator of FOSS. The original Funkwhale announcement’s author makes it clear at the end that they don’t hold freedom-as-an-end-goal (liberalism) as their ideology.
LARP
Not LA nor RP, my friend.
As you hinted, a determined admin can disable the blocklist, it probably isn’t too technical to patch, but this makes a clear statement, which if you’ve seen any right-leaning tech forums, has a real impact on them (see their discussions on Firefox and Rust, or better yet, don’t).
Reeks of bullshit ass slippery slope censorship to me.
They have benefitted from and encouraged ‘but if you do that you’re no diffrent from-’ spinelessness.
Their entire gameplan has been to whine and sob and play victim while demanding ‘we’ march to where they are, while they take two more steps back and whine and sob more at how we’re extremists.
So. Fuck 'em.
Their ‘compromise’ is ‘we give them everything, and get nothing in return.’
Show them that they are not welcome or wanted.
what the fuck are you even talking about?
Just ban country music and you’ve covered like 80% of it.
As a fan of the odd bit of black metal, I would appreciate the 20% being dealt with
