NO GUILT-TRIPPING. Everyone hates it. Psychologically people sustain motivation better using pleasure rather than avoiding pain. This means using “we” and non-judgmental language when we talk about the ‘bad stuff’.
Yes, Meta is funding authoritarianism, Discord is in bed with human rights violators; the focus needs to be on what we’re all gonna do about it. It’s gotta be: “we’re not okay with this! here’s what we’re gonna do together and you’re welcome to join us” and NOT “you’re a bad person for doing this and you should stop.”
This also avoids the stereotyped misconception that everyone who can do complex ‘computer stuff’ thinks they’re better than everyone who can’t. Basically, don’t talk down to people, invite them as equals in solidarity
This, 100%. And the rest is more than worth reading, too.
I can’t understand how difficult it seems to understand something that obvious for way too many of us ‘in the Free/Libre community’: no one like being called names or being publicly shamed. That is not how we can hope to attract new users or members. Imho, it tells more about ourselves when we keep on making other feel bad, belittling them, instead of encouraging them.
What’s missing in this excellent summary is a note about the importance of tolerating diverging opinions. Learning to be ok with not everyone sharing our opinions. When I arrived around here, my first account was on Lemmy, I was really worried by the sheer amount of hate going on towards anyone or any group that dared not be ‘like us’, not think ‘like us’, not share ‘our values’. I was and still am shocked to see how natural it seems to ask for people to banned on a mere divergence of opinions. The simplest solution, the only solution in most cases, should be to block said person when we really can’t stand them (I often do that, it’s working well) because… how do we hope to grow the community if all we can listen to, if the only persons we accept to share the room with needs to be… clones of ourselves?
And how fragile must be our own convictions if we need them to be so badly over-protected even against words?
can’t understand how difficult it seems to understand something that obvious for way too many of us
Would it be a wild assumption that the type of people who are often drawn to be tech/computer geeks are also over represented by people on the spectrum? Could explain some of that “mentality”.
But believe that there are still plenty of us who do know how to talk to other human beings without belittling them. And you’re a good person for pointing all this out, what you highlighted in your comment. It shows you have a lot of empathy. 👍
Would it be a wild assumption that the type of people who are often drawn to be tech/computer geeks are also over represented by people on the spectrum? Could explain some of that “mentality”.
Maybe but I would not be able to say. I would also fear to allow myself to conclude anything out of… not enough data.
But believe that there are still plenty of us who do know how to talk to other human beings without belittling them.
I have no doubt about that. I just shared my personal/direct impression as a user entering the fediverse. Something that I see too often repeating itself, even after all this time… while at the same time the amount of active users remains so sadly… not big enough.
I think Lemmy/Piefed can be a lot better than Reddit (I have zero desire to move back to Reddit) but for that to happen we badly need a lot more content and more participation, aka we need a lot more active users. And I don’t think this will ever happen as long as we allow the most… let’s say the more radical among us decide what and who is OK and what and who is not OK around here. Obviously, this is just my opinion.
This, 100%. And the rest is more than worth reading, too.
I can’t understand how difficult it seems to understand something that obvious for way too many of us ‘in the Free/Libre community’: no one like being called names or being publicly shamed. That is not how we can hope to attract new users or members. Imho, it tells more about ourselves when we keep on making other feel bad, belittling them, instead of encouraging them.
What’s missing in this excellent summary is a note about the importance of tolerating diverging opinions. Learning to be ok with not everyone sharing our opinions. When I arrived around here, my first account was on Lemmy, I was really worried by the sheer amount of hate going on towards anyone or any group that dared not be ‘like us’, not think ‘like us’, not share ‘our values’. I was and still am shocked to see how natural it seems to ask for people to banned on a mere divergence of opinions. The simplest solution, the only solution in most cases, should be to block said person when we really can’t stand them (I often do that, it’s working well) because… how do we hope to grow the community if all we can listen to, if the only persons we accept to share the room with needs to be… clones of ourselves?
And how fragile must be our own convictions if we need them to be so badly over-protected even against words?
Would it be a wild assumption that the type of people who are often drawn to be tech/computer geeks are also over represented by people on the spectrum? Could explain some of that “mentality”.
But believe that there are still plenty of us who do know how to talk to other human beings without belittling them. And you’re a good person for pointing all this out, what you highlighted in your comment. It shows you have a lot of empathy. 👍
Maybe but I would not be able to say. I would also fear to allow myself to conclude anything out of… not enough data.
I have no doubt about that. I just shared my personal/direct impression as a user entering the fediverse. Something that I see too often repeating itself, even after all this time… while at the same time the amount of active users remains so sadly… not big enough.
I think Lemmy/Piefed can be a lot better than Reddit (I have zero desire to move back to Reddit) but for that to happen we badly need a lot more content and more participation, aka we need a lot more active users. And I don’t think this will ever happen as long as we allow the most… let’s say the more radical among us decide what and who is OK and what and who is not OK around here. Obviously, this is just my opinion.