New York, NYC, USA’s sludgy crossover thrash band from the 80’s released this banger of an album in 87. Lots of tongue in cheek attitude with social commentary as is customary for the genre. Linked is this heavy stomper with some melodic elements which completely stand out from the album. Album art is from one of the many reissues, the original is here.
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I happen to have an original first print vinyl of this one which was pretty hard to get in Europe even then. I was lucky to have a record shop in my vincinity who’s owner used to have a good hand with imports - too sad that he got a life sentence for murdering his wife not much later. Which, of course, meant the store had to close. Still I don’t have their first album which is at least as hard to find (unless you’re willing to pay exorbitant prices) and my 1986 cassete copy has long gone ;-). Did you know that Carnivore’s original bassist and vocalist Peter Steel also founded Type O Negative?
I was looking forward to reading another of your comments when I found this band and decided to post it xD. Sucks about the wife, holy cow. And I saw they were associated in some way, either through reviews or some similarities, like “Carnivore is what you get when you speed up Type O Negative and clean out all the dramatic bits” or something to that effect, I’m paraphrasing lol.
I don’t suppose you have any other recommendations for this type of music? I mean I’m sure I’ll get to it eventually by doing these kinds of posts daily but if you have one above all, I’d like to hear it! :D
Next to Carnivore might be VoiVod, but IIRC you already know them. Hellhammer/Celtic Frost were somewhat in that direction, maybe a little extreme but also weirdly famous nowadays. There’s certainly more in the field of early hardcore (back then people used to dispute if they were metal or -gasp!- punk, because, you know, metal and punk just don’t mix!) but next to nothing made it to CD and the vinyl has long been sold out. So there theoretically is a lot of similar stuff between '87 and '9? but you’d have to spend a lot of time on second hand record sales and probably spend insane money for some questionable insight. But, back to the original question, similar to Carnivore - hard. Really hard. Can’t think of any other band that uncompromizingly brutal and tongue in cheek at the same time.
Appreciate the nuggets, but let me broaden the query and make it a little more personal by asking for your specific recommendations in the subgenres of hardcore, punk, thrash or any mixture of them? I’ve always considered myself an outsider even among metalheads, so I’m definitely separate from the cultures that bred these in the first place - I have no misgivings about mixing oil and water or fucking nitroglycerin and alchohol lol.
I can think of a lot of crust punk and black metal mixtures that came out sorta fairly recently, I’m definitely on the hunt for faster sludge metal especially infused with thrash, so this Carnivore album was a nice little treat with some of the sludge style shining through here and there. I’ve found a few punk and hardcore bands that lean towards thrash in some cases but do not teeter towards crossover, like they’ve taken the base elements of both and smashed em together like rocks, which kinda works but doesn’t seem to stimulate growth I guess? Also found out stenchcore is a thing that fuckin rules.
Idk whichever way, this past year of uploads has been such an expansion of my music library and taste hah.
Some personal favs:
Die Kreuzen • Die Kreuzen
Corrosion Of Conformity • Animosity
Corrosion Of Conformity • Technocracy
Corrosion Of Conformity • Blind
Détente • Recognize No Authority
Cro-Mags • The Age Of Quarrel
Cro-Mags • Best Wishes
Cro-Mags • Alpha Omega
Discharge • Hear Nothing See Nothing Say Nothing
Spazztic Blurr • Spazztic Blurr
No Mercy • Widespread Bloodshed / Love Runs Red
Bad Brains • Bad Brains
Minor Threat • Minor Threat
D.B.C. • Dead Brain Cells
Leeway • Born To Expire
Leeway • Desperate Measures
Leeway • Adult Crash
Ludichrist • Immaculate Deception
Ludichrist • Powertrip
Crumbsuckers • Life Of Dreams
Crumbsuckers • Beast On My Back
Neurosis • Souls At Zero
Neurosis • Enemy Of The Sun
Excel • Split Image
Excel • The Joke’s On You
Nomeansno • Wrong
Nomeansno • 0 + 2 = 1
Killdozer • Twelve Point Buck / Little Baby Buntin’
Victims Family • White Bread Blues
The Beyond • Crawl
The Accüsed • Martha Splatterhead’s Maddest Stories Ever Told
The Accüsed • Grinning Like An Undertaker
Hot Snakes • Audit In Progress
Hot Snakes • Jericho Sirens
Life Of Agony • River Runs Red
Life Of Agony • Ugly
Orange 9mm • Orange 9mm
Orange 9mm • Driver Not Included
Into Another • Ignaurus
Into Another • Seemless
Quicksand • Quicksand
Gang Green • You Got It
Merauder • Master Killer
Prong • Force Fed
Prong • Beg To Differ
Dead Horse • Peaceful Death And Pretty Flowers
Bomb Disneyland • Why Not?
Bomb Everything • Guess What
Harter Attack • Human HellI’m guessing D.R.I. is already known
So much homework, I love you lol. Much appreciated my man. Imma start with Cro-mags for the time being!
You’re gonna have fun. With some of them at least ;-)
Holy shit dude! Legendary list! Saving this!
Agnostic Front (“One Voice”, first of all), D.R.I., Napalm Death (maybe the first, definitely the longest existing HC band), early Suicidal Tendencies, GBH (however strongly on the punk side), Crowbar, Black Flag for the beginning. Ah… Possessed’s debut *Seven Churches" had a certain punk vibe, too, even if it’s generally considered the first death metal album.
Hell yea, I had heard of AF but I’ll actually get around to trying them out. Never heard of Crowbar or GBH tho, so, nice! Thank you man :D
You’re in for a treat with Crowbar. One of the original sludge bands along with Eyehategod.
It’s funny cuz I’ve heard of eyehategod, but not Crowbar, wtf? Lookin forward to it!
May I add my 2 cents and mention Youth of Today’s Break Down The Walls? https://tidal.com/browse/album/5526356?u
Woo, straight up hardcore punk, alright!
I think imma have to take a deep dive with ya! @flabbergast@lemmy.world’s killer list of bands has given me some homework to do! I might start with Excel. Had my eye on that list entry for a while.
Good choice, mate!
Venice-style crossover, Suicidal Tendencies are from there too :)
No Mercy is linked to ST, so check them as well!
Nice, was just listening to some carnivore a couple days ago
Fuck yea 🤘🤘
