from what I can tell, when a server is spun up there’s the option to subscribe to an existing blocklist on a piefed server.
This means blocklists can propagate transitively:
If instance A blocks lemmy.ml, and instance B subscribes to A’s blocklist, and instance C subscribes to B’s blocklist, then whatever instance is blocked on A will also end up blocked on C (unless filtered out manually).
quoting the developer of piefed, hexbear and lemmygrad are blocked by default:
Bruv, OP asks ‘What’s your stance on Genocide?’ and then refers to Ukraine and China rather than Israel, that’s bad enough, but then the PieFed guy replies with that ‘they ban speech which minimises atrocities committed by Hamas in Gaza’! Sheesh.
Piefed just seems like it’s going to be a social chauvanist echo chamber, most people like Lemmy because even though the devs have their own ideological principles, it doesn’t pre-configure the user experience based on those principles.
It’s rather unfortunate that no one gets to see other perspectives. And it’s messing with my hope that the USA can get better, because it’s feels like this: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/8939607
These people are willing to accept the “lesser evil,” but it’s the same evil, and they are condemning poor people and PoC to have to deal with it, because we’re the buffer. But they won’t stop at us.
Moreover, this is the censorship they screen bloody murder about with the “great firewall.” Absolutely zero introspective ability effort.
Well collective karma is real, and they think by throwing some into the volcano it won’t erupt. But the volcano is going to do what it does, eventually.
I think it’s a bit heavy handed and there are legit reasons why one wouldn’t want it, but it certainly repelled the right type of potential Lemmy admins
It used to be hard coded, not even in the database but in Lemmy code itself and couldn’t be changed without forking. If I read the issue https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/622 correct, this has changed though.
Thanks. That’s unfortunate. But everyone running an instance will know about blocked instances sooner or later and can get them if the list of they like.
The blocklist subscription would be super useful on mastodon but I think the threadiverse is a bit different. However I’m on my single user instance and am subscribed to communities on other instances only, so I already get a pre-moderated experience even if I don’t block any instances myself so far so is experience doesn’t match that of the admin of an instance with more users and own communities.
For hexbear + lemmygrad it’s by default
from what I can tell, when a server is spun up there’s the option to subscribe to an existing blocklist on a piefed server.
This means blocklists can propagate transitively:
If instance A blocks lemmy.ml, and instance B subscribes to A’s blocklist, and instance C subscribes to B’s blocklist, then whatever instance is blocked on A will also end up blocked on C (unless filtered out manually).
quoting the developer of piefed, hexbear and lemmygrad are blocked by default:
This is why piefed is so popular with centrist extremists.
Bruv, OP asks ‘What’s your stance on Genocide?’ and then refers to Ukraine and China rather than Israel, that’s bad enough, but then the PieFed guy replies with that ‘they ban speech which minimises atrocities committed by Hamas in Gaza’! Sheesh.
That’s a known social chauvanist powermod, one of the fediverse’s loudest anti-communists and Israel defenders while vaguely posturing as a leftist.
Piefed just seems like it’s going to be a social chauvanist echo chamber, most people like Lemmy because even though the devs have their own ideological principles, it doesn’t pre-configure the user experience based on those principles.
It’s rather unfortunate that no one gets to see other perspectives. And it’s messing with my hope that the USA can get better, because it’s feels like this: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/8939607
These people are willing to accept the “lesser evil,” but it’s the same evil, and they are condemning poor people and PoC to have to deal with it, because we’re the buffer. But they won’t stop at us.
Moreover, this is the censorship they screen bloody murder about with the “great firewall.” Absolutely zero introspective
abilityeffort.It’s deeply unfortunate, that’s why I try to do the best I can to stay optimistic but realistic.
Well collective karma is real, and they think by throwing some into the volcano it won’t erupt. But the volcano is going to do what it does, eventually.
I hope so.
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Does it not have that slur filter still? Not sure that’s really the reason people use lemmy
The slur filter was one of the most genius moves I’ve ever seen.
I think it’s a bit heavy handed and there are legit reasons why one wouldn’t want it, but it certainly repelled the right type of potential Lemmy admins
I don’t think the slur filter is something enabled by default, or if it is, is a widely known setting.
It used to be hard coded, not even in the database but in Lemmy code itself and couldn’t be changed without forking. If I read the issue https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/622 correct, this has changed though.
Ah, gotcha.
Harcoded block lists in your software? Gross.
Thanks. That’s unfortunate. But everyone running an instance will know about blocked instances sooner or later and can get them if the list of they like.
The blocklist subscription would be super useful on mastodon but I think the threadiverse is a bit different. However I’m on my single user instance and am subscribed to communities on other instances only, so I already get a pre-moderated experience even if I don’t block any instances myself so far so is experience doesn’t match that of the admin of an instance with more users and own communities.