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From the press release [my emphasis]:
Require operating system developers like Apple and Google to verify users’ ages when setting up a new device, rather than relying on self-reported ages.
cross-posted from: https://beehaw.org/post/25834609
The U.S. has been quietly building up a set of state-level laws that push operating system providers into the age verification plague.
California’s AB 1043, signed in October 2025, requires OS providers to collect age data at account setup and pipe it to apps through a real-time API. It kicks in on January 1, 2027.
Colorado is working on something nearly identical. SB26-051 (which we covered when it was still a proposal) passed the state Senate 28-7 on March 3, 2026, and is now waiting on a House vote to become law there too.
However, these are just state-level laws. A new federal bill, H.R.8250, introduced on April 13, 2026, by Rep. Josh Gottheimer, with Rep. Elise M. Stefanik signing on as cosponsor, has us intrigued.
The Epstein class wants to know which users are minors.
All of these sorts of laws are designed to do two things:
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Destroy privacy
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Destroy Free Software (because inevitable end result will be enforcement via DRM, obviously)
That’s why it’s vitally important to stand united against them, and bootlicking class traitors like Lennart Poettering need to be bitch-slapped into either standing with us or fucking off out of Linux development entirely.
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Don’t you ever forget who is behind this https://youtu.be/Yd7j_u-wPoM
Could you post this on the privacy community? I had never heard about this arsehole.
Where to in particular?
Good places might be /c/privacy@lemmy.dbzer0.com /c/privacy@lemmy.world /c/privacy@lemmy.ca
Oops, all fascism!
If it’s actually “age verification” as quoted, not “age recording” then it’s significantly worse than the state-level bills.
From the press release [my emphasis]:
Require operating system developers like Apple and Google to verify users’ ages when setting up a new device, rather than relying on self-reported ages.
Well fuck me sideways.
Woah, did the media learn something from the California bill? That was only reported very much on after it had already passed. Now this is getting significant coverage when nothing except introduction has happened yet (and let us hope it stays that way).
How do I get off the shit show?
Also might this apply to headless servers too?
There is so much shit they haven’t thought of trying to ram this through it isn’t funny. Not a one of these dumb motherfuckers has any clue how tech works or what kind of headaches this is going to bring to the tech industry. It’s all feel good politics meant to look good but not actually do any good whatsoever, so theater like most of it already (see TSA). There will be so many loopholes in ways to get around it, it will be less than useless.
Please, dear readers, don’t let this sound encouraging (and no shade to you commenter, I’m not disagreeing with you, just adding on top).
Broad unenforceable laws that everyone basically constantly violates because of how they’re written - these are actually weapons used to perform selective enforcement.
Speed limits are a good example, in many jurisdictions all speed limits are artificially low, everyone goes the “normal” speed, and this allows cops to pick and choose their targets. This is partially how “driving while black” could be de facto criminalized, if that reference is familiar.
Them being bad at this stuff is not as helpful to us as it may seem, when ultimately this and many other laws have a primary purpose that supersedes the stated aims of the law. That purpose being, facilitating targeted enforcement by giving a plausible air of legitimacy.
You are 100% right. They will pass all of this and it will suck for a large majority of us. I’m not suggesting it will all be unenforceable (although a large part might be). I’m venting that these people in charge are seeing an opportunity to control and limit much of what has gotten away from being easily surveilled in the first place.
This is no different than the half a dozen various legislative “solutions” to keeping children online safe.
- CDA (1996)
- COPA (1998)
- DOPA (2006)
- COPPA 2.0 (2022)
- KOSA (2022-24)
The common thread is it’s never really about children or keeping anyone “safe”. It’s about controlling people and information. Previously there were lots opposition from various tech industries and infighting but this seems to be gaining traction which scares the crap out of me. The obvious technical limitations, first amendment violations, and giant loopholes from the internet being a global thing are still there but it doesn’t seem to matter.
I flat out have not been able to “catch up” my subconscious to the alarm bells my consciousness is ringing. That’s how significant the shift in the corporate stance is for me (though to be clear it’s not surprising and I never saw them positively).
Always always always the tech companies were at least a weighty line of defense, like you said. Not so much a guide toward good things but at least a “hey! I’m making money over here, don’t mess that up with your bullshit!” kept things manageable. (Well. Kinda. For a while.)
But yeah, the mask-off corporate fascism simply realizes it has shed those shackles entirely. They can directly fund and support the fascist in chief for basically all upside.
We are in fucking trouble. Like I said, I can’t even get my own goddamn brain to see the threat clearly.
Have hope; the pendulum always swings. One silver lining is that in this late stage of this current swing of the pendulum, many closeted villains have taken off their disguises to go party in the streets with their collaborators. When it swings the other way, there will be extensive documentation of who they all are, rather than just the scapegoats and figureheads.
I’m too old and been disappointed too many times to find that very cheering, but I appreciate ya. Pretty much strictly bummer mode for the rest of the comment, to forewarn.
The pendulum does indeed swing, and I’ve lately only really noticed how thoroughly the swing back is just blocked. Co-opted into what amounts to damn near nothing… in the best cases! Progress has been defeated, thoroughly, and has been reversing for some time, and that is now accelerating.
There is of course a low point somewhere, where things can only change, and our adventure in Iran may bring it, but the ruling class seems to have perfected the art of the slow simmer, at least here in the US. Defeating that will be ugly, but we do see some signs that they’re accidentally allowing things to boil via their unchecked greed.
Its true that they have gotten better at their “simmer tactics”, as you put it, but they have also let a lot of unrelenting blowhards into their ranks that have been so far impossible for them to stifle and are really cramping their style.
I’ve often felt that while history seems doomed to its cyclical nature, we have lived straddling two ages in human history. I am of course not at all sure how the Information Age will effect history unfolding this time and into the future, but I think it simply has to have some effect that has never before been seen prior, which is scary, but also fascinating and exciting.
One glimmer of hope I see already is the xenophobic, nationalist nature of these strongman autocrat types that cover the pages of history books does not play well at all anywhere but at home. Every time I see one of these infamous goons try to reach across the national boundary to help a fellow authoritarian gain or consolidate power, presumably in an effort to build up a new “Axis”, it is a kiss of death. In the past, it was much easier for these things to happen away from the public eye, and for the grotesqueness of the foreign autocrat to be largely unknown at home, but now the smoky back room is being live streamed around the globe, and the foreign autocrat has a billion views on social media.
Maybe the revolution be televised after all!
This is SOPA in a
save the kidstrench coat.






