• Suck_on_my_Presence@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    I just did a deep dive on food utensils today. I didn’t look up knives because that seems silly. But spoons are the longest reigning champion of cutlery. Followed by chopsticks and then forks. I believe the oldest found spoon was from ~17,000-15,000 BCE. While the earliest found chopsticks were from 1,700-1,200 BCE.

    Spoon supremacy

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      19 hours ago

      You’re telling me two god damn sticks pinched together to grasp food is younger invention than a deliberately carved concave spoon?

      I call bullshit.

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        10 hours ago

        I mean at least according to historical accounts and archaeology. But I’d imagine it’s hard for two thin sticks of wood or bone to remain well preserved in a setting that says “food”, y’know?

        So, yeah, spoons it is.

        Spoon supremacy

        • 𝕛𝕨𝕞-𝕕𝕖𝕧@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          7 hours ago

          that second to last bit is particularly relevant.

          we can’t really declare what the first utensils were based on current archeological evidence because the first utensils were likely made of materials that are long gone by now, for the most part.

          lots of anthropologist are of the position that chopsticks likely predate spoons and forks, for generally the reasoning given in the original comment you’re replying to here. we can only really conjecture, though. maybe one day we’ll magically have enough dots to see the forest for the trees and be able to be relatively certain about it. having more data points than just human civilization would be a start, for one.

          utensils are like language in of that they are an expression of our culture, so we don’t even know how many individual times across the globe utensils might have been invented, either.

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    23 hours ago

    I just like reading books with oddly long expositions. So, like, in the Mysterious Island by Jules Vernes there is a whole section on how to turn seal fat into nitroglycerin, if anyone is interested. And somehow I remember that more than the plot…

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      19 hours ago

      It’s a blessing and a curse… For one, I’m constantly wondering how people can be so easily duped by bullshit on the Internet

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        9 hours ago

        Because they don’t care if they’re wrong about stuff. They just believe everything they hear, unless it contradicts what they heard before, at which point they ignore it

        It’s tough for me to accept, but many people go through life like that

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    1 day ago

    The number of times people have said to me, “how do you know that?”

    All this in the meme, plus me asking people about themselves in social interactions so I don’t have to talk as much.

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    22 hours ago

    Can confirm that this person (I still don’t know, or care, their gender) knows A Great Deal of Stuff. I don’t always agree with their conclusions on medical issues, but not going to argue with them given their indeed insane research skills + anecdotal evidence. I may be on Bluesky too much.

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      17 hours ago

      You should want to argue with people who have a lot of knowledge and great research skills, because there’s more to learn. You should always go into an argument with a worthy opponent hoping to learn something

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        16 hours ago

        Oh yeah for sure; a very good principal. But this Bluesky poster in particular gets a lot of argument from folks who have not done any research or are outside of their fields.

        So I don’t want to be “that guy.” I learn enough listening to their (often long) replies.

    • Hansae@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      1 day ago

      Find a Wikipedia article and look for the referenced academic sources, then trace the references within those. If you’re good at skim reading you can get quite a bit out of it or with meds wind up with a decent knowledge base on a certain thing.