THAT IS NOT WHAT THIS POST IS ABOUT. You are just shilling for this garbage ass perversion of lemmy at this point. You just keep spamming the same irrelevant post over and over again.
I did say as much in my post, it’s still an ideologically motivated preset. I’m sure all those sorts would be able to create their echo chamber without it being pre-configured for them. It’s hard to have ‘good faith’ when all the usual suspects plus its developer are posting in the comm alongside the people saying that we’re degenerate roaches. That’s why it looks like a Nazi bar from where I’m at.
Piefed is still a cool software, and I think having a diversity of threadiverse softwares is a good thing. Stuff like flairs and polls are nice to have.
I don’t disagree, they have nice features and I hope that results in those features eventually spilling over to similar improvements in lemmy. If it wasn’t for the ideological crusade some people are on I wouldn’t care at all.
A lot of the promotion of it has been along the lines of ‘fuck those tankie degenerates, come use piefed’, an example of which I included here
The OP was calling for a Fediverse-wide boycott when this is how defederation works, and always has been (see hexbear comment above).
It is very annoying for myself and others to write out effort posts refuting shit these liberals spew on our platforms only to find out none of them will ever see it.
Omg dude we get it stop spamming this. We know. That is not what this is about.
If someone runs an instance that has manually unblocked us cool but that is not what this is about and you are clearly the one not registering what I am pointing out here
https://feddit.online/, the same way https://fedia.io/ does (by the way, Fedia isn’t a software, it’s called Mbin, and doesn’t have such code, so not sure why you’re including them into your title)
https://quokk.au/, it used to be the same when it was still a Lemmy instance
Oh my god please shut the fuck up. No it is not. You are being an annoying pedantic little piece of shit you do get that right? You fucking know what I am complaining about here and you keep posting this “welll AAAACKSHUALLLLLY”.
Let me spell this out for you one last fucking time:
“federation” in spirit is the sharing of content BETWEEN instances and is intended as a two way affair. Piefed instances default to blocking any and all traffic from hexbear or lemmygrad and thus there is no way to know if being federated with those instances is actually allowing mutual communication unless tested and therefore without explicit prior statement that the instance owner has gone in and removed the malicious coding nobody should federate with them at all.
Finally and what this entire post is about: I am calling for everyone, not just hexbear, to defederate and block piefed on principle because their devs are deliberately trying to worsen the entire concept of the fediverse by trying to enforce their fascist ideology through blocking dissent through their code.
It is underhanded and dishonest and a shameful display of liberalism aiding fascism.
The behavior you demonstrate here is exactly why hexbear is so widely blocked, and it makes it difficult for those of us trying to keep the infrastructure less opinionated when this is how you behave when you have a legitimate grievance
You fucking know what I am complaining about here and you keep posting this “welll AAAACKSHUALLLLLY”.
You seem to be misunderstanding that defederation being one way is new. I literally used a comment from another hexbear user above clarifying this.
If you want to complain about Piefed having a default defederation list, feel free, but don’t start to question the way defederation has been working between instances for years.
You can still federate after the instance setup, like piefed.zip does
You said I spammed this, but you still didn’t register the information?
https://hexbear.net/post/5959834/6443954
I think it’s more that the admins are the only ones that can do that.
See this comment: https://lemmy.ml/post/35276820/20723645
Long story short, instances who defederate hexbear were doing so on their Lemmy instances anyway
THAT IS NOT WHAT THIS POST IS ABOUT. You are just shilling for this garbage ass perversion of lemmy at this point. You just keep spamming the same irrelevant post over and over again.
He’s just very committed to making sure the Nazi bars have a good public image okay?
There’s a huge post in their snark comm where they’re spinning this as ‘just a default’ and he’s pasting it there too lmao
But it literally is just a default
I did say as much in my post, it’s still an ideologically motivated preset. I’m sure all those sorts would be able to create their echo chamber without it being pre-configured for them. It’s hard to have ‘good faith’ when all the usual suspects plus its developer are posting in the comm alongside the people saying that we’re degenerate roaches. That’s why it looks like a Nazi bar from where I’m at.
True, and I disagree with them having it.
Piefed is still a cool software, and I think having a diversity of threadiverse softwares is a good thing. Stuff like flairs and polls are nice to have.
I don’t disagree, they have nice features and I hope that results in those features eventually spilling over to similar improvements in lemmy. If it wasn’t for the ideological crusade some people are on I wouldn’t care at all.
A lot of the promotion of it has been along the lines of ‘fuck those tankie degenerates, come use piefed’, an example of which I included here
This whole post is also just standard defederation.
Even people on hexbear say it
Maybe I should start using that comment from now on
It’s the default setting for the echo chamber that I took issue with.
I did say that it was something admins can change manually in my initial post here, twice.
The OP was calling for a Fediverse-wide boycott when this is how defederation works, and always has been (see hexbear comment above).
Omg dude we get it stop spamming this. We know. That is not what this is about.
If someone runs an instance that has manually unblocked us cool but that is not what this is about and you are clearly the one not registering what I am pointing out here
You are presenting this like the baked in code forces one-way federation, when it’s clear that the admins can update this later.
Example of two Piefed instances that currently federate hexbear:
List of Piefed instances that currently defederate hexbear:
https://piefed.fediverse.observer/list
As you can see, instances defederating hexbear are instances managed by teams which were going to do so anyway, as they already did on Lemmy.
Instances who want to federate know how to do so, there are three examples.
Yes but I am saying we should block at least any that have this one directional federation. You are putting impressive effort into missing the point.
Edit: And thankfully we apparently just did.
Oh my god please shut the fuck up. No it is not. You are being an annoying pedantic little piece of shit you do get that right? You fucking know what I am complaining about here and you keep posting this “welll AAAACKSHUALLLLLY”.
Let me spell this out for you one last fucking time:
“federation” in spirit is the sharing of content BETWEEN instances and is intended as a two way affair. Piefed instances default to blocking any and all traffic from hexbear or lemmygrad and thus there is no way to know if being federated with those instances is actually allowing mutual communication unless tested and therefore without explicit prior statement that the instance owner has gone in and removed the malicious coding nobody should federate with them at all.
Finally and what this entire post is about: I am calling for everyone, not just hexbear, to defederate and block piefed on principle because their devs are deliberately trying to worsen the entire concept of the fediverse by trying to enforce their fascist ideology through blocking dissent through their code.
It is underhanded and dishonest and a shameful display of liberalism aiding fascism.
The behavior you demonstrate here is exactly why hexbear is so widely blocked, and it makes it difficult for those of us trying to keep the infrastructure less opinionated when this is how you behave when you have a legitimate grievance
Another example that got moderated: https://lemmy.zip/modlog?userId=1633475
I see them all, as a admin voyager shows me removed comments in place. I’m surprised the earlier messages didn’t also get purged, they deserved to be
There is, I linked to the /instances pages that show which instances are federated or not above
You seem to be misunderstanding that defederation being one way is new. I literally used a comment from another hexbear user above clarifying this.
If you want to complain about Piefed having a default defederation list, feel free, but don’t start to question the way defederation has been working between instances for years.
Removed by mod
Then call it like this instead of pretending that Piefed’s implementation of defederation isn’t standard.