as a beginner, this was what made me move away from ubuntu years ago. And something wrong will sometimes end up with you messing up your system. Ubuntu just isn’t a good beginner’s distro anymore.

everyone’s adopting it because they’re forced to. And shut up with your “but you can use X”, some distros literally plan to drop support for it entirely.

that’s the thing… wayland has repeatedly said they will not reach feature parity. So from the word “until” onwards cad be deleted, back to the older comment

“these new cars have a teeny tiny fuel tank with a tiny range! They used to have a bigger tank!”

“Drive an old car”

In this case the new car is objectively inferior, and I can’t buy a new old car anymore.

When something complains about very real problems due to missing functionality, the proper answer isn’t “fuck you, use the old stuff, or stop yearning for the functionality that te intentionally crippled”

eh, the lots of info thing cuts both ways. You’ll find a Lot of outdated advice

I am not referring to it being a drop-in replacement. I’m referring to the fact that there are multiple supposedly-interoperable-but-not-really non-drop-in replacements is the problem. And it does affect the end user if devs find it difficult to adopt (as many do).

Wayland is designed for ease of development for wayland designers. “We’re just a protocol, the coding is left to anyone else” is the easiest way to write code. Because they decided not to write any at all.

well that’s the problem. “I don’t use it therefore it must be a bad idea”

see that’s the problem. Everyone’s first response is that it’s a niche problem. For every complaint. So what? It’s a new problem is the point, however niche.

Btw, this is not a niche problem. Some big projects have explicitly said they have had this very problem

it will be refused in the name of security. Which is notreally a good argument. “it rather involved being on the other side of that airtight hatchway” type of thing

I am not better served. I am now in the quite new position where I’d have to rewrite some of my own personal software if i simply just decided to change DE

missing feature that used to be there but has been removed in the name of protecting me from myself, is an inability to customize.

RIIR projects usually don’t have feature parity.

god that was cringe

keepassxc and a yubikey. And syncthing to keep all devices in sync

all of that describes a lack of extension support. “they just need to be updated” means “gnome devs don’t care about extensions, so shit that was working just fine now broke, and it’s up to the extension dev to find and fix bugs they didn’t introdkce”

But sure, you just need to update… and pin versions and shit

they don’t break due to bugs. They break because they are literally unsupported and ignored.

fuck that shit!

I will never go back to ubuntu, begrudgingly or not

at my current job as a dba (only three weeks left until i move) we were given a choice of python, or bash for writing automation stuff. The bash tools still work albeit they are a bitch to get correct. The python ones are brittle as fuck and totally unmaintainable by now. And it’s mostly due to packaging

mandrake was my first. Good memories