There’s enough living humans to post news articles and memes.
But there are not enough humans talking about interesting things that are only being discussed on Reddit.
Besides, “news articles and memes” are the least interesting thing to have in a discussion forum.
Maybe we are talking about the same thing, but I think we are talking about different parts of the elephant.
To me, the interesting part of Reddit was not in the popular communities, but in the tail end of niches. These simply do not exist in Lemmy, because we do not have the critical mass to sustain discussion about anything else other than politics, and this meta-conversation about Lemmy/Fediverse. To anyone looking for things in the long tail, Lemmy is void of content, so even if they wanted to move away from Reddit they would have no choice.
So, yeah, I agree that reposting about things that are popular in Reddit make no sense, but if we want to get rid of Reddit, then we will need to duplicate the volume of content they have in the niche communities to get over the chicken-and-egg problem.
if you want Reddit content, go to Reddit.
This makes zero sense. “Reddit content” is not exclusive to Reddit, and the people who came to Lemmy are not looking for alternative “content”, they are looking for an alternative, non-corporate controlled platform. Telling people to go to Reddit plays exactly to their game.
I think that Richard Stallman is a despicable person. Never stopped me from using and supporting the development of Emacs and GNU tools for the past 25+ years.
What’s actually missing here?
At the very least, it is missing a context definition in the JSON-LD document that describes the term. What does a document of type ChooseAnswer mean if the provided @context entry only makes references to activitystreams and security/v1 namespaces?
More than that, it is missing a clear need. There is no need to specify a new vocabulary term when as:accept is right there: Why define a new term when something like
{
"id": "https://piefed.social/activities/answer/hgb4iO4b8UAFRTn",
"type": "Accept",
"actor": "https://piefed.socialz/u/rimu",
"object": "https://piefed.ngrok.app/comment/224",
"target": "https://piefed.ngrok.app/post/123",
"@context": ["https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams", "https://w3id.org/security/v1"],
"audience": "https://crust.piefed.social/c/linux_questions",
"to": ["https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams#Public"],
"cc": ["https://crust.piefed.social/c/linux_questions"]
}
can represent the information that a comment has been accepted as a good answer to the question?
Believing that the we need professional hosting providers to have a sustainable Fediverse != “Monetizing the platform”.
Besides, I’ve already voiced similar concerns through different venues. The devs made it clear they are not interested in developing software with a focus on standards compliance. They care about throwing as many features as possible to their system.
It’s fine, it’s their project, they can do whatever they want. It doesn’t mean that I don’t have the right to have an opinion about it.
You can have “modular communities” without violating basic compatibility with the standards. But it is harder to do it and the end users don’t see the potential issues, they will gladly cheer you to do it in the easiest way.
‘ChooseAnswer’ is not an object type defined by activitystreams, and the json-ld context provided by PieFed server has no extension referring to it.
This means that any server ingests messages to an inbox using RDF will see this document and think “this is invalid” and drop it. If it sent as:accept instead, it would work without any modification.
Re: community migration, there is at least one other person besides me that said “when I post something to one community, and PieFed says that I also said that on another place when I didn’t, then the server is fabricating Information”.
To illustrate the point: if suddenly we adopted JSON-LD signatures as a message authentication system, then all messages from imported communities would fail.
How is creating a new Activity type preventing compatibility with the rest of the Fediverse?
If they chose to use any of the 3 solutions I described, there would be no changes on the other servers to receive and parse the message. But because it uses a different type, now those serves that want to store the information about an answer being accepted have to write code specifically to handle messages from PieFed.
It also works in the other direction: if I want to send an “accept” activity for a comment, I could do it from my server and PieFed could easily understand it as well. But because they want to create their own ad-hoc solution, then they won’t be able to.
When you’re the first one doing something with ActivityPub, you have to create it yourself.
No, you don’t. The whole point of Linked Data and RDF is that nodes can send data to each other without having to agree on any new protocol
Piefed features inspired by existing implementations such as the emoji reactions
You are only making my point. Emojis have already a defined extension, this is why it’s easier to adopt it.
picking the one feature
It’s not just that. They also proposed some ad-hoc activities for moderation in the past and their “import community” works by taking posts and rewriting them as if they originated in the piefed instance. These are all signs that the devs either don’t understand or don’t care about JSON-LD as an standard.
This is not a matter of “opening a PR”. The fact that they are adding features in this completely ad-hoc manner shows that they are prioritizing features for piefed over interoperability with the wider Fediverse. If my job was to go around convincing every AP developer that their approach is flawed and to fix their mistakes, I’d be doing nothing else with my life.
What I can do though is to create a framework that makes it easy to work with JSON-LD and occasionally file bug reports.
An aside: this “feel free to open a PR” - without any justification or discussion about the merit of issue at hand - is the standard passive-aggressive response from every developer who is not interested in making the change. It’s sad to see that it’s also becoming the go-to retort for the project cheerleaders…
It’s this kind of thinig that makes me think of PieFed as just a pile of hacks with no serious consideration for the Fediverse
Designating which comment is an answer involves federating a new Activity:
{
"id": "https://piefed.social/activities/answer/hgb4iO4b8UAFRTn",
"type": "ChooseAnswer",
"actor": "https://piefed.socialz/u/rimu",
"object": "https://piefed.ngrok.app/comment/224",
"@context": ["https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams", "https://w3id.org/security/v1"],
"audience": "https://crust.piefed.social/c/linux_questions",
"to": ["https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams#Public"],
"cc": ["https://crust.piefed.social/c/linux_questions"]
}
There are at least three different ways to implement this in a way compatible with ActivityPub:
And even if this type of new activity was a necessity, they could add their own extensions via a proper JSON-LD context definition. But they completely disregard JSON-LD, which means that they expect other servers to either (1) adopt their ad-hoc vocabulary or (2) ignore it completely and keep this idea that “Only PieFed has these features”.
Yeah, before I started working on DAT I spent a good amount of time trying to make Vocata work. If the performance of the rdf store was minimally acceptable, and if I had managed to efficiently query for collections, I would see if I could revive it.
Vocata has some great ideas, but it’s mostly abandonware. If someone here likes working with Python and is interested in a vision of the Fediverse as a true “Social/Semantic Web” instead of the current hodge-podge of poorly integrated software, take a look at Django ActivityPub Toolkit.
The point you are trying to get is exactly where Wordpress and Ghost are going.
Yeah, the frustrating thing is that https://activitypods.org/ already does the hard part, but we need more developers interested in creating these clients that can work well with it.
You only heard the term in context of centralized big social media so you think the term has bad connotation
Please, don’t assume things about the people on the other side of a debate. It’s condescending and it robs us all of learning.
I’m not saying that we don’t need platforms because of “bad connotation”. I’m saying it because I have worked on a “social browser” for the fediverse, an application server for using activitypub as a transport mechanism and I know that we can develop an open social web that does not rely on server-centric applications.
No, far from me saying that the clients (apps?) need to look the same. What I am saying is that the differentiation should be happening at the client, not the server.
It’s the thing with Communick. I wish I didn’t have to offer separate instances for each of the services (Mastodon, Lemmy, Funkwhale) but that every member could get one account which then could use as their main fediverse actor, regardless of “frontend” suited them best. The shell should adapt to the user, instead of the user being forced to adapt to the application.
We don’t need all fediverse platforms to be a Mastodon clone
We don’t need platforms.
We are going to build this as an opt-in feature
I think that the the problem is that it’s opt-in, when it should be the default.
Only if you are talking about the stuff from the popular subreddit. I had 40+ subreddits I used to follow, none of the Lemmy counterparts see relevant activity.