Thanks OP, appreciate it.

I’m not disagreeing with any of your other statements. The enshitification is real. However, let’s not put them in the Adobe camp just because they are selling ad metrics and open about it. That’s actually transparent and still only applies to people watching content with ads in it.

The overall Lifetime Plexpass user is completely not affected by this, so the entire first reaction to your post that it’s time to ditch Plex for some other platform is not really justified.

People who are using Plex for just selfhosting without using their free online streaming stuff are not affected by this at all.

But eventually yes, I’m sure capitalism will also kill Plex. But possibly our planet and entire civilisation before that.

OP is claiming Plex will now SELL your personal data.

Omitting that the user must provide consent, not like Firefox or Adobe just updates T&C and forces user agreement. OP’s title is upvote seeking, cherry picking to quote certain text which makes it seem like they leave the user no choice, and leaving out the part of the text that stipulates the user does have to consent prior to the sale of information.

Moreover, the sale of data seems to be in order to facilitate the ads they show in their free movie and tv content, and even then is still opt in. The ads aren’t, but the data sale isn’t.

For posterity the full OP at the time of this post

Plex now will SELL your personal data

Text:

I consent to Plex to: (i) sell certain personal information (hashed emails, advertising identifiers) to third-parties for advertising and marketing purposes; and (ii) store and/or access certain personal information (advertising identifiers, IP address, content being watched) on my device(s) and share that information with Plex’s advertising partners. This data is used to deliver personalised ads and content, ad and content measurement, audience insights and product development. Your consent applies to all devices on which you have Plex installed. You can withdraw your consent at any time in Account Settings or using this page.

Soure: https://www.plex.tv/vendors/ (Might have to clear cache)

Can also read about the changes here: https://www.plex.tv/about/privacy-legal/

Edit: OP update the title and has my support should they run for public office.

OP is posting misleading hyperbole

This from the Plex site, emphasis mine.

Consent

We take your privacy seriously. If you’d like more details on how we collect, use, and transfer your information, please review our Privacy Policy. Plex is able to provide free-to-watch movies, shows, and live TV by displaying a modest number of ads before and during playback. While it is not possible to opt-out of these ads, you do not have to consent to the selling and sharing of certain information.

We’re never going to get anywhere if people on these communities can’t act in good faith and share correct and information - not sensation. Change the OP or mods delete this misinformation.

ETA: shame on the 63 people who mindlessly upvote this crap without factchecking OP too.

Warned about this 11 days ago. https://lemmy.world/post/27449126

This is still a weakness of the current federation model imo

I’m the same, I don’t care about the karma aspect, I do care when it is strategically used by hidden interests to keep certain content ranked lower and push content they like up.

That’s a nice analogy.

I wouldn’t worry as much about Alt-Right conservatives here - they tried but couldn’t get a foothold, and after being defederated from all instances eventually collapsed internally, and went to Truth Social. Here, we ironically have much more to worry about from the Alt-Left that uses identical patterns of behaviors, just ostensibly on the “left”.

I’d love to learn more about this story. Who is alt-left? How do they behave?

Cool, I think I understand it better now.

So an r/TheDonald situation on Lemmy would effectively mean this community can exist forever until it is just lonely sitting by itself defederated from every other instance in the lemmyverse (fediverse?). So it is impossible to basically shut something like that down on a global scale, only to North Korea it. (At which point, as the analogy goes, they are forced to send their soldiers to help with the Russians and find a way to make trouble that way)

I suppose that’s a fair price to pay for decentralisation. Thanks for the responses.

I think it’s clear that the answer to that is not enough, so why don’t you point me towards the nearest library with a Lemmy history section?

Ty. That stuff should be available in mobile clients too. It could definitely be better visually represented and contain a reason and a defederated since date or more.

Also an explanation that addresses my other example about downvote brigading a tertiary instance.

Thx. I saw the rule. @ mods I’m fine if you want to remove this.

I think federation needs to be better explained possibly here either with a sticky or sidebar. And a diagram of who we are federated with and not that’s live updated would be helpful too.

Thanks for all the work you guys do

Ok thanks. I’m a little confused by what that means for voting. Is it possible that anti authoritarian posts or comments still get downvote- brigaded by an instance that is technically defederated from the instance of the OP?

So let’s say instance A and B are defederated from each other, but both are with instance C. User from A posts something on C and every B user still gets to downvote everything to oblivion right?

So .ml is effectively r/TheDonald and we can’t do much against brigading?

I don’t remember. I didn’t post it. I saved it, and then it was gone.

Lol

Ok, perhaps I don’t. Can you explain what people mean when they call for “defederating from” an instance then?

Well argued.

I didn’t post it, I just saved it somewhere on .ml and it is gone, and found it back on !progressivepolitics@lemmy.world

My question stands though, I sense that “political” is used fairly broadstrokely It almost means “complicated, longer than 5 second attention span” stuff.

With political meaning “relating to the government or public affairs of a country”, e.g. a broad definition too. However, a free person being essentially abducted on the street by plain clothes “law enforcement” could perhaps be seen as a humanitarian, civil liberty, freedom of speech, and some many others before it being just “political”.

Is there a guideline on Lemmy why we let the tankies be part of this or is a bit of an analogy to the r/TheDonald situation on Reddit? As in: I hope that we don’t slide the same way.

I’m not complaining about bans. I’m trying to have a debate on why tankie-land needs to be part of this?

The Fourth Reich is being established under our eyes. What’s the point of social media if a bunch of idiot mods can stop the world from seeing this very essential information?

I would like to have a better definition of what constitutes “political”, what is “humanitarian” then?

Should this be clearly defined per instance?

Like we don’t even have Reddit anymore. All we have is this sputtering slow barely anyone here fresh fragile digital space where we can share some minor resistance, can we at least not have any self sabotage here?