When I posted this the OP read like a dystopian sci-fi announcement.

The way it worded now is an improvement but there is still a serious technological handicap ingrained in the platform which makes this seemingly necessary.

We are struggling gaining any meaningful MAU growth afaik, so if some of those new people are treated as “we assume you’re a bot or malicious actor until proven innocent”, that’s only going to hamper platform growth.

I can’t edit them on my client. The way they are Crossposted here is if the OP is updated, the Crosspost also updates as it is just a link without body.

I posted this here for cross instance discussion. Based on your response here and in the original thread, I understand your decision a bit better. This is still worth flagging super instance, both in terms of the admin-cultural way to deal with it, if there is stuff we could do on a software level and as an example of how not to communicate such information to the community.

I was merely saying there were good people on both sides.

I’ve tried careful, and I’m seeing it in practice all around me. It’s not working.

Technically a sniper a few hundred feet from the White House isn’t necessarily a bad person and could be in a very good position of power.

Ragebait. Might work in fuck_ai

I think we’ve exhausted this discourse. Peace

I’ll just quote you to yourself, as we’re pretty much on the same page:

If you approve someone, you don’t need to explain yourself, you would just say “I agree with this guy”. There’s no substance to it.

However, if you downvote, you are saying “this is wrong”. Which is much different. When you accuse someone of being wrong, you should explain yourself, otherwise you’re being a dick.

It’s fine if someone already answered with what you were going to answer. You can just upvote that guy and move on.

EDIT: I’m absolutely in awe that this comment specifically gathered so many downvotes. And this is a good example of what I was referring to. Lots of people downvoted, and 0 ppl said why.

You may think that those upvotes explain the downvotes, but they really don’t. And they don’t to a small majority of the people, so perhaps you can help out. A good start would be:

You’re getting downvoted because

Or

I’m downvoting your post/comment because

Or if you feel the upvoted comments are indeed addressing my concern “legal porn that looks like CP is morally extremely questionable and either won’t help the growth of Lemmy or would attract people I rather not associate with”, you can copy paste it.

I also want to state this is occurring at a time where we are discovering pedophelia run all the way to the white house.

TIL a significant minority of Lemmy/Piefed users like to look at or reserve the right to be able to look at pornography where the actors bear resemblance to children. And the best arguments they have is FReE sPeEcH and iTs NoT iLleGaL.

Yuk.

I understand the ease of downvoting, but the lack of well laid out arguments gives this entire platform a very yukkie vibe to me.

I was simply cross posting for discussion. And while I see the point that the OP is being a bit dramatic perhaps, as somebody else said on here: the downvotes and vehement opposition to the OP can be seen as support for pornographic content that seemingly depicts minors, even if the actors are in fact of legal age. And if there is one type of content where the user is more concerned about what it looks like than what it is, it would be pornography.

Everyone can have different kinks, fetishes and sexual proclivities (SFW), but once you’re essentially advocating for pornography that visually identical to child pornography, it’s time for that uncomfortable look in the mirror I think. The free speech absolutist argument doesn’t really hold water. What would the absolutist argument be if the child pornography was mades using Sora or something similar? No minors would be involved in making that either right? I’m all for free speech, but to push this angle seems really grasping at straws.

If a new user comes to Lemmy without NSFW filters and such content is among the first things they see, I wouldn’t expect them to sign up and become a regular contributor to the platform.

I was hoping !fediverse@lemmy.world would be a place where this can be discussed, which I suppose it is, as this will rank nicely as “controversial”.

What’s with the downvoting?

Could you be so kind to share some tech specs on your setup that runs all this, how you access this, etc?

This is big. But also very important. You could say it’s big and important.

There is a post about the 2.5 release posted 6h before this OP. People upvote both. Fine my me. More exposure = more donations I hope

Duplicate https://kbin.earth/m/selfhosted@lemmy.world/t/2355068

Like multireddits then, yeah that would be nice.

You mean cross instance merged supercommunities (like all the dataisbeautiful communities under sc/dataisbeautiful?

Ok, let’s take this a notch further then.

These are not just users having a bad day. In some cases these are repeat offenders or agitators who have been banned but want to come back.

There’s already a higher barrier to entry on a lot of instances. Back when I made this account, I had to apply for it, and it had to be manually approved.

On my OTHER hand, there is IMHO a problem with overactive mods on the larger communities. I’m seeing the same mods modding several 1k+ subscriber communities with very high activity, and they are supper trigger happy with permabans. Permabans without warning, without prior tempban, straight up permaban. This will drive a bunch of people mad and drive them to create new accounts on a different instance just to bypass the ban.

This in turn is causing inflation in the new signups too.

But a delay in being able to comment / post for new users would prevent ban-evasion, but equally, I would much prefer that mods can’t be getting such batshit workloads as volunteers making them more likely to be compassionate and not instantly go for nuclear options at the slightest sign of trouble.

It’s not straightforward of course, but I do appreciate the discourse we’re having here.

Love it