I joined Github and others, years ago to report bugs in software. But now I rage quit Github. No more bugs from me unless you move your application to a more acceptable platform. I suggest every bug reporter user do likewise. Screw Microsoft.
I’ve only heard the name gimp is used by some in a bad way. I don’t know, nor want to know, what they use it to mean.
Yes. Gimp is the photo editor.
I’d heard some sickos in some place use the word Gimp for something bad. Some sick minority are the last people to listen to about the name of software that’s used world wide by people who don’t know about those sickos.
Which is what the name has not been changed. Put your own house in order.
There are no cli commands that I can use in my drawing and 3D modelling applications. Or when working with complex schematics. Where things don’t often have names. It would be unproductive to leave the app to go to the terminal, type in ‘the blue thing in the top right, No the dark blue one…’ then come back to the app to see the result.
Also, not all user types are the same. Visual users need different things from text users. That’s basic usability.
We’re not all IT people with no interest in UX.
I never use the terminal. It’s not necessary for me. I’m not an IT user. I’m not missing out on anything. Many things I do don’t even have a terminal command. It’s important new users know this if they are not in to IT.
Yes. They shouldn’t need to. Sadly some think everyone should.
Newbie: Hi I just want a distro to go shopping and for family tasks.
Mechanic: You want a racing car. Lift the hood and I’ll show you how to operate all the adjustments. Racing cars need lots of tuning and youll need wide tyres too.
Newbie: Can’t I just drive to the shops?
Mechanic: But you need to learn under the hood first. That’s what Linux is all about.
Newbie: there is also no room for shopping in this racing car.
Mechanic: there is if it’s just text files. Don’t bother with all that jpeg and binary bloat.
Newbie: You know, as much as I hate Windows, either I didn’t need a mechanic, or got one who didn’t insist open the hood to operate it.
Todays desktops from commercial and open source are all stuck in the legacy, file-app-document world. The tired old, paper inspired, pre-Internet, pre-mobile way of working. PDFs, online silos, 10 different UIs to get simple things done.
Commercial companies want to keep their monopolies and don’t want to spend on any development.
FOSS Communities have little clue of what the next generation user information space will look like. And will likely copy the commercial world again when it all kicks off.
The terminal is not a good way to interact with visual tasks such as drawing, 3D modelling, and working on complex schematics or where things don’t have names. Especially where the typical type of user is a visual, not a text thinker. Its not efficient to leave your working environment to go to the terminal and back either. And text thinkers are often not good at those visual tasks. So I’m not expecting terminal commands to appear in areas where I spend much of my time. I, like many, are not in IT.
I want everyone to have the benefit of Linux. It’s not just about me. We’d then get those missing applications and drivers. And if anyone wanted to get away from the mainstream, there are distros just for that.
I need a good DE for launching apps and switching tasks. As a mouse user I found Gnome poor in launching apps. Huge mouse movements needed, and hard to lay out the launcher apps as I need them compared to Plasma. Id consider Gnome if I found a suitable replacement launcher. It would need favourites, category navigation and search.
I never do any of that. I’m sure a lot of non IT people don’t either. At best they’d get an app to do specialised tasks for them. Sadly too many gatekeepers tell people considering Linux, they must use the command line. But I never use it. So that’s clearly not true for normal users.
People do use it differently. I never use the CLI on Windows or Linux. I’m not in IT. I just do everyday user things. Many of which don’t even have a CLI command.
> i get made fun of a lot.
Yes. They don’t understand you need a way that works for you. We are all different. There is no one-size-fits-all.
Different user types have different capabilities. Some think in terms of text. Others are more visual. Neither is wrong. Just like a left handed person is not wrong. Good usability is about adapting the software to the person. Not the person to the software. For a lot of what I do there is no text command. And for many, the CLI is an unfamiliar interface. So it’s a productivity disadvantage to switch over to a CLI just for a single command when the rest of the time you are in a GUI.
Yes. I agree these chatbots are another text interface like a CLI. So to me that’s again a barrier to usability when I wish to refer to graphical or linked logical items on my screen that don’t have any text description. I don’t work in a purely text world, where usually there are no CLI commands for what im doing.
Its likely these people find a chat bot easier as they don’t need to memorise a command plus modifiers exactly letter perfect. Where one mistype can fail, or worse. Two big issues people have with a CLI. And the chatbot output is made readable too. Where on a CLI it’s hard to know if something worked, not being familiar with the terminology it spits out.
Yes it is possible. I never need the terminal. If you are interested, you can usually find a GUI way if you look for one. Some people just don’t look, then tell people there is no GUI for it. Not very helpful for newbies.
For those not into usability, different people work in different ways. Visual workers are not the same as text workers. So for some, CLI has poor usability and productivity. For lots of things I do, there isn’t a CLI anyway.
I use Kubuntu these days. It could be better.
Software and hardware companies look at the market share to decide if its worth making a Linux version. If linux has a chunk of the market it becomes viable.
This is one issue on the topic. It was changed by nate to the kup application, then marked incorrectly as a duplicate. Backing up should be possible with most applications. Today none can do it. https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=513001
Look out for any Linux dip in figures, as some people give up trying to use Linux, and move away again. If they hit a tricky problem, and go online for help, some will just scare them away with an over techy response. And they will share their horror story, keeping more people away from Linux.