the “shitty website” box is also likely just ImageMagick too

Come on, now! Asking me if I support voter intimidation is both a straw man and begging the question and you know it.

That’s not really the point under discussion, is it?

You said there were no politicians who would advocate for voting in general. I just googled up a bunch of quotes to the contrary. I’m sure I could find governers, senators, mayors too but I was focusing on presidents.

In fact, in regards to Hayes, Bush Trump - isn’t losing the popular, but taking the presidency due to process actually an excellent case for more voter rights and less restrictions on the voting process?

And what the hell does the Compromise of 1877 have to do with giving voters water?

Once again, because I feel like you’re derailing here by attempting to drag this discussion into 200 year old minutiae, should we not be able to make voting an easy, relaxing, simple, comfortable process and isn’t that better for society?

"There’s no such thing as a vote that doesn’t matter. It all matters.”— Barack Obama

“To vote is like the payment of a debt, a duty never to be neglected, if its performance is possible.” –Rutherford B. Hayes

“The future of this republic is in the hands of the American voter.” –Dwight D. Eisenhower

“Elections belong to the people. It’s their decision. If they decide to turn their back on the fire and burn their behinds, then they will just have to sit on their blisters.” – Abraham Lincoln

“The vote is the most powerful instrument ever devised by man for breaking down injustice and destroying the terrible walls which imprison men because they are different from other men.” –Lyndon B. Johnson

“Nobody will ever deprive the American people of the right to vote except the American people themselves, and the only way they could do this is by not voting.” –Franklin D. Roosevelt

buddy you just did the same thing to me.

I just don’t agree with your assertion that voter disenfranchisement efforts are necessarily a function of an incumbent party. There are many politicians who want people to vote even if it’s not for them.

In other countries going to vote is a sub-15 min task, you can do it on your way to work/school. in the US it can be a multi-hour experience which is designed to be as difficult as possible.

More older people vote than young people, so perhaps the whataboutism question here should be, “why do you want to torture older people?”

no, it does not. this is a false narrative designed to obfuscate voter suppression.

in general it’s telling people who to vote for

in context it’s telling people who to vote for while in line

the “joke” I was making is that handing people water while in line does not support a specific party

and which party is the dehydration party again?

it’s illegal where I am in the USA to give housed people a bottle of water standing for hours in the direct sunlight if they’re in line to vote.

The hope is that will disincentive people to vote.

a) isn’t “the police” just a wider definition of “a community organizing itself”

b) half the police are in the fucking klan anyway lol

Americans code switch too. Southern people will definitely lean on their diphthongs harder when they want, New Yorkers will get more nasal pending context etc

the idea that reality is subjective is relatively new

uhhh the parable of the cave?