on Hitler’s birthday. fancy that.

“Executive dysfunction is detrimental to the quality of life”

stroof.

“neurodiverse people need help to function in it in a way that doesn’t make them feel worthless”

some neurodiverse people do, but your reasoning implies that neurotypical people do not feel worthless in today’s society.

that’s a take that won’t stand up to much scrutiny.

“…treatment, be it with therapy and/or meds”

apparently we’re in agreement.

treatment, when necessary, effective, and desired, should be available.

“less punishing to neurodivergent people”

I mostly agree with this.

“People with ADHD have little to no trouble in society today”

i disagree, that is antithetical to my previous comment.

that said, neurotypical or divergent, if you don’t have trouble in society today, I want to know more about your society.

“not treating people who are struggling is not the way to change society”

yes, and neither is treating people who don’t wish to be treated or are treated unnecessarily.

are you sure you’re responding to the right comment? I haven’t said many of the things you are arguing against so far.

“and that’s a tremendous struggle without medication”

then according to my previous comment, you are one of the extreme cases that need and want intervention, and should receive it.

“I take issue with your metaphor at the end”

I gather from your preceding assumptions and arguments against things that I have not said, along with your general combative tone, that you have been quixoticaly swept up in an imagined narrative that you feel you must do battle with.

“What do you think is present in an unmedicated person with ADHD that is somehow missing in a medicated person?”

missing? nothing.

right, and with that sort of prevalence, and so little detrimental effects to society, there isn’t good enough evidence for advocating “treatment” of most people who just think differently than other people.

largely, they notice or pay attention to different things, so “treatments” are unnecessary, obtrusive or damaging.

exception given to extreme cases, “treating” ADHD seems a lot like removing funding for arts courses because school administrators don’t value the arts.

having grown up with ADD and ADHD being huge in schools and then reading countless studies over the past few decades about how inaccurate diagnoses and the understanding of ADD and ADHD are, I will be very cautious in administering any medication to my children for popular syndromes.

I’ve heard the argument, but we already have more accurate terms like “capitalist”.

I’m not saying people are going to stop using those terms, I just find personally find it silly.

It’s like calling a truck a bicycle, and then having to explain every time that you understand a truck isn’t really a “bicycle” but you have to call it a “bicycle” because everybody else calls it a bicycle.

Bourgeoisie means the middle class, it’s frustrating that term has become incorrectly popularized as “those in power” or “the upper crust”.

Just in case anybody doesn’t know this is real:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Condor#%3A~%3Atext=Operation+Condor+(Spanish%3A+Operación+Cóndor%2Cleaders+in+South+America+from