

It’s interesting that anubis has worked so well for you in practice.
What do you think of this guy’s take?


It’s interesting that anubis has worked so well for you in practice.
What do you think of this guy’s take?


ngrok isn’t just for development.
That’s news to me lol. I’ve personally only used them for development so I can’t tell you how good they are for running production services.
I just looked at their pricing page and it looks like the Free and Hobbyist only include 1GB and 5GB of data, respectively. I’ve never actually measured my data usage because Cloudflare gives unlimited data, but I suspect that’s nowhere near enough for a photo sharing app like Immich.


You might be misunderstanding the value-add of a CDN to self-hosting, so here’s my attempt at explaining:
I’ve been self-hosting things for a very long time. In the old days, we would wrangle our routers to expose port 80 for HTTP (and later, port 443 for HTTPS) and forward those connections to the self-host server and then add the appropriate DNS records to point our website domain to our home IP address (which was its own fun challenge when ISPs refused to give static IP addresses for home plans). Relatively simple.
However, in recent years (especially after the pandemic) the internet has become a much more hostile place. People find vulnerabilities in your nginx/caddy/apache or whatever reverse proxy you use (or router, or any one of the many other parts of your network/software stack) gain access to your local network and your personal data. And then there are bad actors doing DDoS attacks or AI crawlers generating DDoS levels of incoming requests to overload your hardware.
All that combined means it’s very dangerous to have your home IP exposed to the internet (allowing any sort of inbound requests) at all.
So, how do we access our self-hosted stuff while we’re outside of home? The safest approach is to use a VPN. Tailscale is the most popular one that I’ve come across. Only client devices that are connected to the VPN have access to your stuff. Random bad actors can’t poke your self-hosted stack for vulnerabilities.
Okay, what if you want to share something with people publicly? I for one, use Immich for my photo libraries and it’s very easy to be able to share a link to an album for friends and extended family to access without having to install and configure a VPN on their phones.
That is where cloudflare comes in. We can run cloudflared on our machine, which makes an outbound request to cloudflare and creates a tunnel to route all the incoming requests from their servers to your reverse proxy. Your network is still not exposed to the internet, and the edge nodes (the machines that actually front the incoming traffic from the clients) are not owned by you.
Now, I guess it’s feasible to rent a VPS on DigitalOcean/OVH/Azure/AWS and run a Tailscale exit node there to achieve a similar result. I haven’t looked too deeply into Pangolin but it looks kind of similar. Now you’re adding extra work to keep those configured correctly (and up-to-date), is less secure because you’re not doing that full time (unlike the engineers at cloudflare) and you’re still dependent on that VPS provider to not go down, so the disaster recovery profile hasn’t changed all that much.
That’s why there’s no self-hosted alternatives to a CDN. I guess you can go with their competitors like Fastly/Akamai/etc, but all of them are considerably more expensive. And even the ones that do have free tiers have data limits or bill per gigabyte. That’s an extra headache to worry about for that one month your mother decides to take 1000 videos of your son during the family vacation and her phone automatically backed up all of them at full-quality.


Anything recommended by the Open Home Foundation or partners with Home Assistant


Yep. Tailscale uses wireguard under the hood so that setup sounds exactly the same.
The Cloudflare tunnel is free. They don’t seem to have a traffic cap either. They’ll charge you if you want to use a non apex domain (e.g. subdomain) or if you need their more advanced bot detection/defense products. But a basic/standard setup like what us self hosters have is free.


Yes, and yes.
Their Android app feels like an exact clone of the Google Photos Android app.
To access it remotely, you can use Tailscale like someone else mentioned. But you need to have Tailscale installed on everyone’s phones.
You can also use a Cloudflare Tunnel to allow it to be accessed over the Internet without exposing anything from your home network directly to the Internet.
The latter is useful when I want to share a secret link to a photo album after hanging out with people so everybody can upload the photos they took to one place (something I used to do a lot with Google Photos)


Does everything Google photos does. Their app looks/feels exactly Google’s app, including sharing links. Assuming you’re running it on reasonably powerful hardware, it does all the same face recognition and ML based search that Google photos does.


Eh, Microsoft actually has enough money in the bank to prevent layoffs. They’re doing them on purpose to raise the stock price.
TBH, I’ve never used any of those features. I just used it locally and plugged it into home assistant.
But I just reinstalled their app and can confirm I can watch the feed and get push notifications without a cloud account. Haven’t tried email tho
Obligatory
Oh wow their front page doesn’t mention at all that their products run locally and don’t require subscriptions.


😢


It doesn’t seem like a very “walled” garden if they were able to migrate all their data including issues and comments
It’s interesting that anubis has worked so well for you in practice.
What do you think of this guy’s take?
https://lock.cmpxchg8b.com/anubis.html