Huh? They have 60 mile ranges, that’s less than a bike.

But no, for long distance biking you take it in conjunction with trains. Can’t take a smart car on a train

Sure. Point is they’re not a serious consideration, they’re not bought, have no range, and are useless. Larger models like yours have almost all the same issues cars do. You just want to feel better about the choices you make, instead of just understanding the actual issues cars pose

No, it does not. Still has considerably more environmental impact that can be reasonably justified. Still creates more death. Wheel rubber will still be a major, and ignored, issue. Still encourages poor land use and lower activity. And frankly, ring me up when small electric cars exist–none of the current electric car models are small. Except the rarely used electric smart car.

It’s a small inconvenience for a major bettering of the world. You really underestimate how bad cars are for society and the planet. Cars account for 28% of usa emissions according to the epa(on a yet ungriefed section). Add in the rubber tires breaking down everywhere which gets worse as car weight increases, and you can see how it creates issues to wildlife, children, and the climate. Don’t underestimate the emissions created in producing your electric car’s batteries and tires either— they’re better than an ice but still an issue.

You don’t understand how science works. It’s been proven with full certainty that climate change is fully caused by humans. Any nay saying to that is just pretending otherwise; there’s far and away enough evidence to prove it

Exactly my point: caring about a minor convenience.over seriously bettering the world.

The degree is considerably different. And that still ignores the non pollution issues.

Cars are a problem. They pollute(yes, even electric ones), are costly to run, greatly increase the danger of neighborhoods, cause a reduction in smaller businesses. They make it more expensive for people who don’t have money to get around, make it harder for children to get safely from place to place. They generate sizeable areas of development damage to growing people along major highways and roads(again, even electric causes this).

It’s not a solved problem, cars are a problem.

Raincoats exist man. Rain bubbles exist. It’s a solved problem. Snow just isn’t that hard

A glance at this thread would show you I’m right. People’s primary reasons for not switching is not wanting to bike in the rain, winter, and not wanting to be sweaty --all of which products are made to deal with.

Even kids are easily transportable with a small trailer

No, it’s spoken like someone who’s been to the numerous countries where they bike with their kids just fine.

worked a job with a dress code

A 5-7 mile commute is doable without being sweaty with the right bike.

Sounds like a problem that needs solving.

You can not ride a bike on our roads

What’s stopping you?

and the cycling community is unfriendly

“i sold my hammer because the hammer community was unfriendly”

It’s a tool first and a culture second. Choosing a tool based on culture is already poor decision making.

For whatever reason, you seem unable to see someone else’s perspectives on this subject. I’m going to chalk it up to inexperience.

I can see their perspective. I think their perspective is simply pure selfishness, desire for a small convenience over the greater overall good.

A bike that hurts your back is likely not a practical commuter upright bike.

If you can’t stand the slightest inconvenience to yourself for a better world, the world will never improve.

It’s strictly true. It’s not ablest. The overwhelming majority of those who cannot have no serious underlying reason as to why not

Bikes are not even half as hard as you think they are.

best of luck in gathering momentum for your cause.

Thankfully, there’s already significant momentum, bike lanes and transit are growing stronger.

I’m not speaking without doing. I’ve done as cold as it gets in my city, which is admittedly short of -30c, probably closer to -23c. This is about bikes, not buses. (But honestly goes for both!)

People aren’t going to like being told it. But I’m ever of the opinion that people who whine when told they’re wrong are not ever going to be the ones changing in the first place. They merely sit there, in the comfort of the car, justifying their decision by pretending the gas guzzling environment harming and dangerous vehicles are somehow justified by the small amount of lightly discomfortable weather and short bikeable rides.

You’re basically saying their time is of little to no value, and what they want to accomplish with it doesn’t matter

It’s not of little value. It’s the amount saved by driving is not worth it. For them and for others.

Ablest is when pro environment . Yeah no. It’s easy to create exceptions for the small portion of the population who is fully incapable of biking. Less car dependency will allow those who can’t drive to get around far more safely, actually leading to more mobility for people with issues like legal blindness that prevent them from driving but not prevent them from other multimodal forms of transit

Yes, it does. Don’t be a naysayer when you haven’t tried it; it isn’t as daunting as it seems