My Organic Maps doesn’t have traffic (or doesn’t for my area). I can’t see anything about it online either, except discussions about how it could be implemented.

Where do you find the traffic info? Even if zoomed in to New York I see nothing.

Haha I just searched up this person using Google Drive as swap 😯

https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxmasterrace/comments/rrb7gk/you_cant_download_more_r/

I traced this back to a particular rogue website. But yeah I think GNOME uses more RAM anyway, then having everything containerised in Bazzite is extra RAM I’m sure. Then having like 5 chat apps, Steam Firefox, etc open was easily eating up my 16GB RAM. Of course more RAM means more is used because unused RAM is wasted RAM, so it’s hard to judge one system against another.

That sounds like a performant way to run a system!

Possibly related? https://github.com/canonical/checkbox/issues/727

GNOME being killed by oom-killer in Ubuntu. I guess for some reason GNOME was killed for me instead of Firefox? Even though I’m on Bazzite.

I know my wife had some computer in her family earlier than we did in mine, it had a black and green screen (as in the screen only showed those colours). Not sure what it was, but it must have been the 80s I’d guess.

Looking through the wikipedia page for the Apply II I’m pretty sure one of the variations is what we had at school that I was referring to. I find it really hard to remember back that far, though!

I used Windows through to when I got a Mac for a while and used OSX (it was during the intel CPU period and I dual booted Windows). I had tested out various Linux distros over the years and always had a live linux CD just in case I needed to rescue a computer, but didn’t use it as a daily driver until I got my current laptop about 3 years ago. I switched from Windows to Linux cold turkey, no dual boot. I figured most things are in the browser these days anyway. The only thing I’ve never solved is that my scanner will scan at 1200DPI in Windows but never more than 300DPI in Linux. I have drivers downloaded from the Brother website but it doesn’t help 🙁. So I have to use my wife’s Windows laptop if I want to scan photos.

It’s hovering more like 1.7GB right now, with 1GB shared RAM (I don’t really get what that is in regards to the 1.7GB in use).

I’m also running Bazzite, a gamer-focused linux distro, but it is special. It’s an atomic distro, meaning instead of the traditional way of updates where the update program installs each of hundreds of components, in an atomic distro you get the whole update as a block. All files except the user space are read only, and so almost any application you install will instead be a containerised flatpak because otherwise it might get overwritten by an update (you can still install things the old way, sort of, but it’s heavily discouraged and a last resort.

Steam also has a *.deb for Debian based distros (e.g. Ubuntu or Mint in addition to actual Debian). A native application probably uses less RAM than a containerised version, I’m guessing.

Don’t let my weird system put you off. Linux is a fun adventure! For me, jumping around different distributions from time to time is part of the fun 🙂

Ah so cached is the disk cache and it sounds like this is not part of the “used” memory.

It sure does. I’ve never cracked 30GB RAM before. The site is doing something weird, for sure. Though I feel like Firefox should catch this before the OS crashes.

Looks good, thanks!

The RAM use kept growing until it locked up and I got booted back to the login screen, losing everything unsaved. Now it’s back to normal but when I run free -m the numbers match what’s in the GUI.

I’m pretty sure the culprit was a website for uploading photos for printing. Something odd about it, I did upload 1,000 photos at about 2GB total, but it was sucking up RAM Like crazy. Firefox was using some fifty-something GB of RAM.

So if we say Firefox is using 4GB which seems pretty normal, then add on normal background apps Element, Beeper, Signal, Caprine, each using 1GB with no window open for some reason. Steam uses 2GB just to run in the background. The only window open is Firefox and I’m already at 10GB without counting what the system needs.

I normally also have Joplin open, there’s another 1GB. And Nextcloud in the background + Betterbird for email, together another 1GB.

Now if I want to actually do something, I might open a JetBrains IDE like PHPStorm which if I open 2 windows with 2 different projects could easily take 4GB.

No VMs. The RAM usage kept climbing until I was crashed out to the login screen and lost everything that was open. It seemed to be a particular website that gobbled RAM.

Weird. If I was going to saturate my GPU, I’d pick an intensive game. Seems odd that a gaming laptop might get overwhelmed and shut off if a game is too intensive? Or is is something special about LLMs that make it the Archilles’ heel?

I don’t remember those days. I used Windows 3.1 (with DOS for games) at a relatives house, but it was too early for me to understand about the hardware. We also had some Apple computers at school with I think 5 1/4" floppy disks but again I didn’t really get technically savvy until I was older.

The first PC we had at home was Windows 95. I seem to recall we had a pretty decent amount of RAM. Maybe 32MB or perhaps even 64MB.

Yeah the cache as part of used memory theory didn’t stack up. This comment (sorry, Lemmy probably doesn’t handle the link well) showed 54GB in use, 30GB cached, and 13GB available. 54+12 = 67GB total so cached doesn’t seem to be counted as in use since it should be counted as free (mostly).

In the end, I’m pretty sure it’s a memory hog website. It kept filling up until GNOME crashed and I lost my progress (I was trying to order prints for 1000 photos on a horrible website that made me change settings one photo at a time, and the longer I took the more RAM filled up).

Anyway the fact that you can’t run Linux with 16GB is weird

I mean, it runs fine. It’s more how I’m using it. Firefox 4GB, Element 1GB, Signal 1GB, Beeper 1GB, Steam 2GB, Joplin 1GB. That’s all just open and idle (chats and Steam don’t even have windows, just background) and are the minimum I would have open at any point. That’s already 10GB. By the time I open a couple of windows in a Jetbrains IDE or a particularly demanding website and suddenly it’s suffocating.

Well in a turn of events, the stupid photo printing website I was using just kept filling RAM up until it was full then GNOME crashed me back to the login page.

Well top currently shows:

MiB Mem :  64076.1 total,   2630.3 free,  51614.1 used,  34046.9 buff/cache     
MiB Swap:   4096.0 total,      2.3 free,   4093.7 used.  12462.0 avail Mem 

While the “Mission Center” app shows:

Oh the applications sure were using a lot of RAM, I can’t deny that.

How does that happen? Shouldn’t the GPU and CPU have thermal throttling so even under intense loads it just slows down to keep temps down?

When I play games on my laptop the integrated graphics are at 100% most of the time but it doesn’t cause the system to crash.