

Here’s the sentence right after the quote:
Privacy-wise, it’d be wise to “blend in” and always report the most common value. Tor browser thinks this way to make users less fingerprintable.
wiki-user: Aatube
Now mostly on @Aatube@kbin.melroy.org . I use this account as a backup.


Here’s the sentence right after the quote:
Privacy-wise, it’d be wise to “blend in” and always report the most common value. Tor browser thinks this way to make users less fingerprintable.


It’s going to be used to ban “critical race theory” and lgbtq topics first.
How would the CA law allow that? It’s not KOSPA but a dropdown selection.
not to mention Apple Education sells it for $500


Judging and enforcement are incompatible with true anarchism—they impose hierarchy. Anarchism doesn’t eliminate prejudice; prejudice is innate to herd behavior, whether in animals or humans. For example, wasps in Panama show this: they attack intrahive wasps but will switch hive allegiance if they feel they aren’t contributing. Similar behaviors exist across species.
Community justice often personalizes blame, risking turning individual crimes into collective ones—undermining objective justice. Neither pure objectivity nor subjectivity alone suffices; justice requires both. Relying solely on local politics distorts fairness. Historical abuses among Indigenous communities illustrate these failures. Priya Parker’s insights reveal that traditional courts often hinder meaningful resolution, though re-engineered systems can improve outcomes—usually reducing incarceration but sometimes increasing punishments for those who manipulate the system.
Biological diversity includes true psychopaths—individuals like Jeffrey Dahmer or Epstein—whose brain wiring makes them derive pleasure from violence and murder, impervious to socialization. Cross-cultural studies confirm that innate differences lead to extreme behaviors; socialization can’t erase such wiring. An anecdote from “Snakes in Suits” underscores that socialization isn’t a cure: a man who had murdered before easily did so again, highlighting the dangers of ignoring innate tendencies.
Civilization must control psychopathic behaviors; otherwise, it becomes complicit in their crimes. Pretending otherwise ignores reality. I merely offer perspectives—many will reject or ignore them. Laws protect religious and ideological beliefs as constitutional rights; so do prejudices. It’s absurd that anarchism claims to be without leaders yet seeks to prohibit all other regimes—effectively positioning itself as the ultimate authority.
This is a systems issue: societies can optimize to maximize rights within ecological limits or sabotage themselves for short-term gains. Humanity’s choices—such as risking extinction in the Great Filter—are theirs alone. My role is to present viewpoints; rejecting them is valid. If some perspectives lead to a deeper understanding, that’s the purpose.
Psychopaths who find killing people to be funny exist.
I offered that up as a possible motive. I’m not disputing that. Also, I disagree with your implications that psychopaths must be imprisoned and that prison is good socialization.


Note that I’ve corrected “transformative justice” by what I meant, “restorative justice”.
If restorative justice can’t fit this scenario as you mention, what do you personally think should be done?


I didn’t say that it should be part of the OS. You’re repeating a different (compelling) argument that doesn’t change whether this field is opt-out when this entire subthread is about whether these fields are opt-out since kent_eh said the other fields were opt-out.


exactly, users should disable the optional birthDate field


Your point is true, but I’m saying its impact is also optional.


You specifically named the bills from Colorado and NY. They simply do not include those. https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/SB26-051 https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2025/S8102/amendment/A I wholeheartedly believe my characterization of these bills are faithful.
Specifically due to how barebones it is, it is trivial to modify yourself the birthdate sent to applications, as long as you have the system password.


That is the purpose, but the field is implemented as optional and modifiable with admin privileges.


(same for the birthDate field)


I agree with you but repeating your arguments in mass replies does not make it stronger.


That’s the Minnesota bill. The PR does not comply with that. You can read on how to the California law and NY and Colorado bills basically say to give the user a drop-down to select their birth date.


I don’t see what’s wrong with implementing it as an add-on to the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gecos_field as the PR in question does. It’s the most logical place as the location to store user information and is even easier to opt out of—you just edit a file—than choosing whether to compile Linux with/add to DKMS a kernel module.
Edit: One can see https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/8878df45c1a58afdfb500fdc53ec50e057a240ce/docs/USER_RECORD_BLOB_DIRS.md?plain=1#L103 for an example of a user record file and its path. Further documentation you can read at https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/8878df45c1a58afdfb500fdc53ec50e057a240ce/man/systemd-userdbd.service.xml#L36 and https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/8878df45c1a58afdfb500fdc53ec50e057a240ce/docs/USER_RECORD.md .


nah as an anarchist i am against silence. i’m just saying that in our capitalist society open source maintainers do not in fact have responsibility to the community, only to their market share, and this works slightly less dysfunctionally than proprietary because come what may the opposition may fork it. but that and the transparency and the ability to volunteer your labor for them are the only things that open source does guarantee.


Test your understanding of the Dylan Taylor age verification story and what it reveals about open source infrastructure
I’m very suspicious of whether one would create 10 questions for nearly every blog post of zirs by hand.


I think what ze’s saying is https://mikemcquaid.com/open-source-maintainers-owe-you-nothing/ . the nature of open source—atl in accord with the hacker ethic—is that everything is just a passion project, there is no responsibility to not make bad decisions, and bad decisions result in decreased adoption and lost trust. after all, open source has always been about making a new alternative because existing solutions are bad.


not even said laws have an expectation that the date of birth provided would be accurate. the colorado bill just says “require[] an account holder to indicate” and never defines “indicate”, the ny bill says “request an age category signal” and never defines “signal”, so i assume they’re like the california law which has been verified to be just “enter your date of birth in this text field/dropdown and we’ll trust you girl”. i don’t think any of that involves biometrics
there’s no alien intelligence or protocol specification in systemd that ensures or says the dob field must be accurate either


I looked at driving this last month, but 1. their packaging policies currently say they’ll only accept very essential packages because they’re still developing the infrastructure for a bigger repo 2. a small issue with the live system (hardcoded ISO partition label, which fails when attempting to Ventoy it) made me shrug off trying it “for later”, and I’m now exploring Guix System which is its own beast
Those are five bugs the kernel maintainers have reviewed and decided to patch (the links are to the commits), not just five bug reports. I think that leans towards “they tested it” or at least “proofed the formal logic in their minds successfully”.