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Not the same at all. You don’t have to be a gunsmith to kill someone with a gun. You do have to be a knowledgeable engineer to produce anything that isn’t slop with “AI”.
A MUCH better analogy is construction. Do you want a bunch of teenagers and Main Character Syndrome dipshits who cannot even read blueprints nor understand regulations and building codes let alone know them, to build your house? Nono, it’s OK! They have nail guns and modern lumber, they don’t need to know all that!
Sure you can get a shed or even a small house out of that, but you’re never going to get safe, modern, multistory construction like that…
Most of what people talk about when they talk about AI… are talking about products. ChatGPT is a product being sold. Claude is a product being sold. “AI” being shoved into other products also makes it a product being sold. etc.
You’re right, they’re not mutually exclusive words, but I’m going to thoroughly disagree that people are talking about those specific companies when talking about AI as a technology, which we certainly are here.
You might not like the product that is Claude or whoever, but I don’t like Irwin hammers, doesn’t mean it’s not an effective tool. And it doesn’t stop the world from utilizing it. And it doesn’t automatically make the job any less correct.
No one is out here trying to have the AI be their OS, they’re using it to build things, so the house thing isnt any better. Keeping those teens off the jobsite is only going to stop that house, not the industry. You don’t want to live in it, that’s fine, but that doesn’t mean it’s not going to be exactly what someone else needs. And those kids did get some experience, even if its just the walls falling down around their ears. Next one will be better.
Would it be ideal if everything was inherently safer and more thoroughly understood by the masses? Yes. Is it a reality that is achievable?
lol defending teenagers willy nilly building a house and ignoring building codes…
OK
Your attitude is beyond pathetic. Your attitude would still have us working 10x6 days with no insurance anywhere to be seen. Your attitude reinforces all the shit you think “AI” can fix.
Prove it. You cannot, because not only are you too stupid, but I have made no claims that can be validated yet… Interesting how you have failed to realize that and instead went for a basic ad-hominem. Sad.
I understand how technology has advanced over the last several decades. It has NEVER been because a rich pile of fucking filth declared it so. They actually had to provide something for the masses to eat it up…
Weird how you think basic trash that’s forgotten in less than a month is somehow competitive with reality.
There’s no such thing as ‘just a tool’, especially if that tool is accelerating climate change when we’re already on the knife’s edge of irreversible domino effects.
Your response to my comment mentioning that AI is contributioning to climate change was to suggest it was equivalent to HVAC workers being afraid of heatpumps, which is ridiculous.
If you think climate change is an impending global disaster, do you think building giant data centers that require extremely polluting on-site power generators is not a particularly bad idea, and should factor in heavily on how this technology is used or promoted?
It seems like most users and advocates of LLMs find the idea of limiting its use to just locally hosted models to avoid the majority of the negative externalities to be unthinkable.
Climate change is an issue, but this hardcore stance with no nuance isn’t helping. The extreme strawman slippery slopes don’t help, either.
You’ve got a capitalism problem, not an AI one
Data centers don’t require any of those things. It absolutely can and should be regulated (or even existing laws enforced.) Irresponsible implementation is an issue, but if the only people with any familiarity with the technology don’t care to do any of that? Do you think there is a world where this genie goes back into a bottle?
AI is indisputably helpful in many situations. Most people who I know that use AI generally use local models and that can cover 95% of what people want or need to do with it. (You might have a bit of a blindspot there). But there is a place for the big models as well.
Same thing could be said about a fishing pole. Or car, or rifle, or a bicycle.
It helps inexperienced users to catch fish… But with some knowledge and experience can get more out of it.
Not the same at all. You don’t have to be a gunsmith to kill someone with a gun. You do have to be a knowledgeable engineer to produce anything that isn’t slop with “AI”.
A MUCH better analogy is construction. Do you want a bunch of teenagers and Main Character Syndrome dipshits who cannot even read blueprints nor understand regulations and building codes let alone know them, to build your house? Nono, it’s OK! They have nail guns and modern lumber, they don’t need to know all that!
Sure you can get a shed or even a small house out of that, but you’re never going to get safe, modern, multistory construction like that…
It’s a tool, not a product.
LLMs and other machine “learning” are tools.
Most of what people talk about when they talk about AI… are talking about products. ChatGPT is a product being sold. Claude is a product being sold. “AI” being shoved into other products also makes it a product being sold. etc.
They are not even mutually exclusive words…
You’re right, they’re not mutually exclusive words, but I’m going to thoroughly disagree that people are talking about those specific companies when talking about AI as a technology, which we certainly are here.
You might not like the product that is Claude or whoever, but I don’t like Irwin hammers, doesn’t mean it’s not an effective tool. And it doesn’t stop the world from utilizing it. And it doesn’t automatically make the job any less correct.
No one is out here trying to have the AI be their OS, they’re using it to build things, so the house thing isnt any better. Keeping those teens off the jobsite is only going to stop that house, not the industry. You don’t want to live in it, that’s fine, but that doesn’t mean it’s not going to be exactly what someone else needs. And those kids did get some experience, even if its just the walls falling down around their ears. Next one will be better.
Would it be ideal if everything was inherently safer and more thoroughly understood by the masses? Yes. Is it a reality that is achievable?
lol defending teenagers willy nilly building a house and ignoring building codes…
OK
Your attitude is beyond pathetic. Your attitude would still have us working 10x6 days with no insurance anywhere to be seen. Your attitude reinforces all the shit you think “AI” can fix.
Yours would have us using bones as clubs.
Prove it. You cannot, because not only are you too stupid, but I have made no claims that can be validated yet… Interesting how you have failed to realize that and instead went for a basic ad-hominem. Sad.
I understand how technology has advanced over the last several decades. It has NEVER been because a rich pile of fucking filth declared it so. They actually had to provide something for the masses to eat it up…
Weird how you think basic trash that’s forgotten in less than a month is somehow competitive with reality.
Oh kid, you tried, that need to get the last word gave you away. Go look those words up before you start slinging them around. Look up irony too.
There’s no such thing as ‘just a tool’, especially if that tool is accelerating climate change when we’re already on the knife’s edge of irreversible domino effects.
Sounds like y’all are afraid, just like the HVAC guys and the mini splits.
Also sounds like that writer needs to learn to use a fork.
You don’t think climate change is a massive threat to our habitable biosphere?
Yep. That’s clearly what I’m saying./s
Now I can see why you thought that article was a rebuttal though.
Your response to my comment mentioning that AI is contributioning to climate change was to suggest it was equivalent to HVAC workers being afraid of heatpumps, which is ridiculous.
If you think climate change is an impending global disaster, do you think building giant data centers that require extremely polluting on-site power generators is not a particularly bad idea, and should factor in heavily on how this technology is used or promoted?
It seems like most users and advocates of LLMs find the idea of limiting its use to just locally hosted models to avoid the majority of the negative externalities to be unthinkable.
Climate change is an issue, but this hardcore stance with no nuance isn’t helping. The extreme strawman slippery slopes don’t help, either.
You’ve got a capitalism problem, not an AI one
Data centers don’t require any of those things. It absolutely can and should be regulated (or even existing laws enforced.) Irresponsible implementation is an issue, but if the only people with any familiarity with the technology don’t care to do any of that? Do you think there is a world where this genie goes back into a bottle?
AI is indisputably helpful in many situations. Most people who I know that use AI generally use local models and that can cover 95% of what people want or need to do with it. (You might have a bit of a blindspot there). But there is a place for the big models as well.