I will not defend Stalin and I will not defend the CCP. Just because capitalism isn’t good doesn’t mean that we have to glaze imperialist states. Ask Ukraine and the Baltic states how good they had it during the USSR; my point being that pro-USSR sentiments are largely just pro-Russian propaganda.

China is doing some good nowadays, but it still definitely has corruption. There are still billionaires, polluted air, capitalistic factories—which have terrible working conditions and sell cheaply made carcinogenic products, they’re building AI data centres—some of which will boil the water temperature, bans citizens from accessing a lot of websites, etc.

I even decided to join a solidarity website and it mentioned f**cking Kim Jong-Un as a leftist figure ffs 💀. Literally, ANY North Korean defector will tell you how bad the North Korean regime is. The site had no mention of actual decent examples like Peter Kropotkin, Nelson Mandela, Thomas Sankara, Martin Luther King Jr, or even Pierre-Joseph Proudhon.

Edit: did not know that Proudhon was a bigot. My bad; thanks immensely for telling me.

  • emmy5482@quokk.auEnglish
    5310·
    5 days ago

    Those aren’t leftist spaces. They’re propaganda places for China etc

    • lurch (he/him)@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      511·
      5 days ago

      A leftist place doesn’t magically become a chinese propaganda place whenever a few chinese propagandists show up there and raise their red flags. It’s just an aspect of the whole thing.

      • Vreyan31@reddthat.comEnglish
        163·
        5 days ago

        This sounds kind of like the “Nazis at a bar” problem.

        If you let ‘a few’ start hanging out at a bar, it becomes a Nazi bar.

          • Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world
            91·
            4 days ago

            Yes.

            I’m all for open and fluid communication, it’s why I like this platform, but there needs to be a respect for the social contract. If the area is for the organization and discussion of a specific political format than joining with the intention of converting others or the area to a different format is a violation of that contract. It’s the same situation as going into a meme channel and trying to talk people into making it about pet photos under the guise of believing your pet is memable.

            They can have their own booth at the conference and anyone interested will come naturally, they don’t need to pretend to be someone else to trick the gulable.