I don’t really understand what you’re trying to say. In this context “fascistic” is a descriptive/indexical term not trying to literally say “the ideological form of facism we understand nowadays arose directly from the legal code of Solon of Athens.”.
but it’s not going to be easy to convince people that a many thousand year old narrative is “wrong”.
So which narrative are you referring to? Is there really a narrative that is many thousand years old? Or are you saying that the narrative is about many thousand years? Your comment reads like the idea that democracy is invented in Athens (and therefore by white Europeans) is many thousand years old which doesn’t make much sense to me.
Is there really a narrative that is many thousand years old?
Yeah I’d say the Athenian political narrative had mostly matured no later than Demosthenes. Obviously it’s been interpreated and re-interpreted, and twisted and turned into all sorts of purposes, but the broad strokes have largely been taught the same in Europe since then.
Call me pedantic but “many” doesn’t start before 3. It’s less than 3 millennia so it’s certainly not “many thousand years”
Antiquity wasn’t very positively viewed in medieval Europe. It’s only since the Renaissance that ancient philosophers are rediscovered, in part this was possible because they were translated into Arabic. Otherwise, a lot would be forgotten.
Democracy had a negative connotation throughout the ancient world and medieval times. It’s only in modern times that this shifted and in great parts due to contact with indigenous people from North America. But the US for example is rather modeled after the Roman Republic than Athenian Democracy. The Founding Fathers didn’t think well of democracy.
I recommend reading the author who’s quoted in the post. There Never Was A West is a good starting point since it’s not too long but id that doesn’t matter for you, The Dawn Of Everything is great. I think you’ll find all on theanarchistlibrary.org
I don’t really understand what you’re trying to say. In this context “fascistic” is a descriptive/indexical term not trying to literally say “the ideological form of facism we understand nowadays arose directly from the legal code of Solon of Athens.”.
In your first comment, you said:
So which narrative are you referring to? Is there really a narrative that is many thousand years old? Or are you saying that the narrative is about many thousand years? Your comment reads like the idea that democracy is invented in Athens (and therefore by white Europeans) is many thousand years old which doesn’t make much sense to me.
Yeah I’d say the Athenian political narrative had mostly matured no later than Demosthenes. Obviously it’s been interpreated and re-interpreted, and twisted and turned into all sorts of purposes, but the broad strokes have largely been taught the same in Europe since then.
A few points:
I recommend reading the author who’s quoted in the post. There Never Was A West is a good starting point since it’s not too long but id that doesn’t matter for you, The Dawn Of Everything is great. I think you’ll find all on theanarchistlibrary.org