What you’re saying seems obvious but I don’t think it’s as simple as that. However, @stepan@lemmy.cafe said “somehow manage to ignore it”. I don’t think anyone ignores trauma in the way this implies. Unaddressed trauma is a ticking time bomb, period.
Trauma comes in all shapes and sizes. When you get into the weeds, the word actually becomes useless on its own. What becomes important is the type, source, and severity of the trauma. When comparing one group to another, circumstances play just as large of a role. For example:
Neurodivergents are much less likely to have romantic relationships, and the odds are even worse of them having children. Thus, they experience trauma related to rejection, loneliness, shame and unfulfilled evolutionary drives (among other things) at a much higher rate than neurotypicals. However, they experience the trauma of miscarriage, abortion, loss of a child, divorce, death of a spouse, and spousal abuse at a much lower rate than neurotypicals.
Are there a whole slew of things unique to neurodivergents that are compounded by societal or cultural incompatibilities (bullying, social rejection, invalidation, etc.) that neurotypicals will likely never understand? Absolutely. Do neurodivergents have much higher rates of suicide in adulthood than neurotypicals? Yes. Do these have anything to do with whether or not neurotypicals are seemingly better at getting-by because they ignore their trauma? No. They’re better at getting-by because the world is built for them. But that doesn’t mean they don’t live in a prison of their own.
I didn’t say neurotypicals are better at getting by because they ignore their trauma or that they live in a utopia, I said the world is generally less traumatic for neurotypical people.
I think the whole conversation is muddied because we tend to only identify neurodivergent people after they have been traumatized, not always but people tend to only seek help and diagnosis after they have had major troubles. Literally part of the DSM criteria for diagnosis is that the neurodivergence has to give the person issues when they try to function in society.
It’s a catch-22 when you say the world is built for neurotypical people because neurodivergence is partially defined as someone for whom the world isn’t built for.
What you’re saying seems obvious but I don’t think it’s as simple as that. However, @stepan@lemmy.cafe said “somehow manage to ignore it”. I don’t think anyone ignores trauma in the way this implies. Unaddressed trauma is a ticking time bomb, period.
Trauma comes in all shapes and sizes. When you get into the weeds, the word actually becomes useless on its own. What becomes important is the type, source, and severity of the trauma. When comparing one group to another, circumstances play just as large of a role. For example:
Neurodivergents are much less likely to have romantic relationships, and the odds are even worse of them having children. Thus, they experience trauma related to rejection, loneliness, shame and unfulfilled evolutionary drives (among other things) at a much higher rate than neurotypicals. However, they experience the trauma of miscarriage, abortion, loss of a child, divorce, death of a spouse, and spousal abuse at a much lower rate than neurotypicals.
Are there a whole slew of things unique to neurodivergents that are compounded by societal or cultural incompatibilities (bullying, social rejection, invalidation, etc.) that neurotypicals will likely never understand? Absolutely. Do neurodivergents have much higher rates of suicide in adulthood than neurotypicals? Yes. Do these have anything to do with whether or not neurotypicals are seemingly better at getting-by because they ignore their trauma? No. They’re better at getting-by because the world is built for them. But that doesn’t mean they don’t live in a prison of their own.
I didn’t say neurotypicals are better at getting by because they ignore their trauma or that they live in a utopia, I said the world is generally less traumatic for neurotypical people.
I think the whole conversation is muddied because we tend to only identify neurodivergent people after they have been traumatized, not always but people tend to only seek help and diagnosis after they have had major troubles. Literally part of the DSM criteria for diagnosis is that the neurodivergence has to give the person issues when they try to function in society.
It’s a catch-22 when you say the world is built for neurotypical people because neurodivergence is partially defined as someone for whom the world isn’t built for.
Yeah there’s a bit of a selection bias going there as you pointed out (not sure if that’s the exactly accurate term).