After seeing a megathread praising Mao Zedong, an actual mass killer, and a post about a guy saying “99% of westerners are 100000000000% sure they know what happened in ‘Tiny Man Square’ […] the reasons for this are complex and involve propaganda […],” I am genuinely curious what leads people to this belief system. Even if propaganda is involved when it comes to Tiananmen Square, it doesn’t change the atrocities that were/are committed everywhere else in China.
I am all for letting people believe what they want but I am lost on why one would deliberately praise any authoritarian system this hard.
Can someone please help me understand why this is such a large and prominent community? How have these ideals garnered such a following outside of China?
EDIT: Thank you to everyone who has responded! This thread has been very insightful :)
Clean water you say…
It’s also quite telling that your answer became a “communism vs anarchism” out of nowhere.
The teams and labels are a fucking cancer of human society…
What is meant by “tankie” if not ML communist? And what other ideology would OP, who posted this from anarchist nexus to an anarchism community, propose i hold instead if not anarchism?
I don’t propose you hold any ideology, I’m just curious as to why people choose this one
Because I see no other credible way to stop capital from devouring the world.
The topic isn’t a comparison between the two and the fact you needed to bring it up is pretty funny.
anarchist comm deriding “tankies” but totally no comparison or debate here, fellas, no-sireeee
Can you show me in this doll where anarchists touched you?
are you okay?
Can you read?
I can yes, that’s why I wonder where the butt hurting against anarchism come from.
Quit lying
CSA sure is hilarious
It’s an anarchist complaining about “tankies” and parroting NATO propaganda, it is absolutely a comparison between the two.
And what does your side parrot?
Seek employment
That’s what capitalists parrot as well, weird.
you really think you did something there, huh?
I have an antiburn cream if you need it.
Broken clocks lol, get busy
Of course there is implied comparison. If one doesn’t “fall into the tankie mindset” they must necessarily believe in something else. And if nothing else is equal to the task before us, which I assert to be the case, one must be either a tankie or resigned to extinction. I presumed based on OPs choice of instance and comm that the something else they believe and implicitly compare to “tankieism” is anarchism. OP asked why someone would be a tankie and I told them why I am a tankie rather than what they seem to be.
Exactly what i was talking about teams: "if you don’t agree with us you must be < insert whatever is perceived as the current enemy >
I consider anarchists misguided, not my enemy. My enemy is the bourgeoisie and not because they disagree with me but because they exploit me, my peers, and the environment. Do you never argue with people who aren’t your enemy?
This is factually false since, for example, I don’t fall into the tankie mindset and I do not believe in one thing in particular.
I am against the exploitation of the workers and the environment, but I am not fooled by Chinese propaganda or whatever.
I hate to break it to you but you do in fact have beliefs. You might not think about them very hard, they might be totally incoherent, you may have passively absorbed them from capitalist propaganda, but you wouldn’t bother speaking if you were really as vacuous as you claim to be.
However I don’t support capitalism either and, by your logic, the fact that you are so verbal about your ideas (and the fact that they are limited to a very specific set of ideas) is because you have absorbed another form of propaganda, correct?
I can’t stand people who treat everything like team sports, especially those who treat POLITICS like team sports and vilify absolutely everyone who doesn’t root for their guy coughMAGAcough
Has there ever been a revolution in history that was fought without its combatants falling into one of at least 2 separate forces?
My approach to politics is “like team sports” only in that I acknowledge the existence of teams and have chosen one. Do you really think we’re all on the same side? When liberals insist that we all want what’s best for everyone, that there are no conflicting interests only conflicting methods, do you believe them?