The first other laptop with the same cpu to come up in a search is around the same price when specced similarly, and isn’t repairable.
Their lowest spec main board in a PC with base spec is $1099 for:
13.5" 2256x1504 60Hz Matte Display
16GB Memory
256GB Storage
Windows 11 Home
1-year limited warranty
That motherboard is 449. You’re talking out of your ass and either your troll is showing or you’re actually an idiot lol. Every motherboard sku is comparably affordable compared to the built laptops. And the built laptops are not unreasonably priced for their specs, given their quality and features (among which is upgradeability and repairability, something I’m willing to pay more for.)
It’s not a novelty to me that I can change my ports if I get into a creative hobby that benefits from having an SD card slot, or if all my peripherals move to type c, or if I get a setup where displayport is more valuable than my current hdmi (or I could literally have both if need be). Its certainly not a novelty to me that I can upgrade my cpu years down the line. And most thin and lights in the same product categoryhave soldered components. The Dell thin and light, the xps 13, also has soldered RAM.
I really don’t care if you want one. I don’t like throwing things away, I like repairing them instead. I like mending my clothes. When I have a home and have appliances I will take joy in getting them fixed. I like keeping my old devices going for as long as possible. My last phone until upgrading a year ago was a pixel 3. My previous thinkpad was from 2013, and I only didn’t bother to get it fixed when it broke because it’s specs were no longer keeping up, even on Linux. I like not contributing to e-waste. Not having to replace my laptop outright is worth money to me because it saves me money and is consistent with my desire to take care of the things I own rather than getting rid of and replacing them.
That doesn’t matter to you and that’s fine. But to call it a scam because you personally don’t value its core value proposition is dumb. And you look silly for arguing as such while simultaneously saying “you haven’t proven me wrong”
Sick. Buy something else lol. It’s obviously not the right product for your needs, that’s fine. Why try to convince everyone that it’s somehow wrong for theirs too when they’re happy with it? Have a nice day.
If the components aren’t soldered, then yes, it is. 🤦 My laptop is actually easier to repair than a framework is.
The ports are the silliest of the novelties lol. My laptop just has the ports I need, including an SD reader, and I didn’t have to pay outrageous prices for each port…
The core value proposition is a scam that is not realistic or cost effective for 99.9% of framework laptop owners. Fact.
Loses the argument and resorts to name calling… classic
It is a fact that by the time a CPU upgrade is warranted and you have to replace literally the entirety of the guts of the laptop (because the CPU is soldered…), besides the hard drive and maybe the RAM if you get really lucky with the upgrade path, the rest of the parts will have no value and will be worn, either needing refresh too, or not worth holding onto. For 99.9% it makes more sense to just buy a new laptop (for literally cheaper than framework) at that point
I’m “trolling” yet you’re the one failing to address my argument and also the one calling names… sorry you got duped and overpaid for a laptop that you’re likely going to just end up throwing out and replacing for cheaper…
The first other laptop with the same cpu to come up in a search is around the same price when specced similarly, and isn’t repairable.
Their lowest spec main board in a PC with base spec is $1099 for:
That motherboard is 449. You’re talking out of your ass and either your troll is showing or you’re actually an idiot lol. Every motherboard sku is comparably affordable compared to the built laptops. And the built laptops are not unreasonably priced for their specs, given their quality and features (among which is upgradeability and repairability, something I’m willing to pay more for.)
It’s not a novelty to me that I can change my ports if I get into a creative hobby that benefits from having an SD card slot, or if all my peripherals move to type c, or if I get a setup where displayport is more valuable than my current hdmi (or I could literally have both if need be). Its certainly not a novelty to me that I can upgrade my cpu years down the line. And most thin and lights in the same product category have soldered components. The Dell thin and light, the xps 13, also has soldered RAM.
I really don’t care if you want one. I don’t like throwing things away, I like repairing them instead. I like mending my clothes. When I have a home and have appliances I will take joy in getting them fixed. I like keeping my old devices going for as long as possible. My last phone until upgrading a year ago was a pixel 3. My previous thinkpad was from 2013, and I only didn’t bother to get it fixed when it broke because it’s specs were no longer keeping up, even on Linux. I like not contributing to e-waste. Not having to replace my laptop outright is worth money to me because it saves me money and is consistent with my desire to take care of the things I own rather than getting rid of and replacing them.
That doesn’t matter to you and that’s fine. But to call it a scam because you personally don’t value its core value proposition is dumb. And you look silly for arguing as such while simultaneously saying “you haven’t proven me wrong”
Sick. Buy something else lol. It’s obviously not the right product for your needs, that’s fine. Why try to convince everyone that it’s somehow wrong for theirs too when they’re happy with it? Have a nice day.
If the components aren’t soldered, then yes, it is. 🤦 My laptop is actually easier to repair than a framework is.
The ports are the silliest of the novelties lol. My laptop just has the ports I need, including an SD reader, and I didn’t have to pay outrageous prices for each port…
The core value proposition is a scam that is not realistic or cost effective for 99.9% of framework laptop owners. Fact.
You’re evidently a moron, and completely misunderstood what I typed.
Thats not what a fact is. its a fact that thats an oppinion; your troll is showing again. This is not worth my energy, have a nice day.
Loses the argument and resorts to name calling… classic
It is a fact that by the time a CPU upgrade is warranted and you have to replace literally the entirety of the guts of the laptop (because the CPU is soldered…), besides the hard drive and maybe the RAM if you get really lucky with the upgrade path, the rest of the parts will have no value and will be worn, either needing refresh too, or not worth holding onto. For 99.9% it makes more sense to just buy a new laptop (for literally cheaper than framework) at that point
Trolling is only effective is no one can tell you’re trolling.
I’m “trolling” yet you’re the one failing to address my argument and also the one calling names… sorry you got duped and overpaid for a laptop that you’re likely going to just end up throwing out and replacing for cheaper…